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This graphic and title were published by The New York Times in two articles separated by eight days.

Ukraine's Counteroffensive Has Made Progress. But It Has Much Farther to Go (2023-09-20)

How the Front Line Has Barely Moved in Ukraine this Year (2023-09-28)

spoilerThis javascript bs sure makes for shitty snapshots, but I refuse to link directly to the NYT. meow-tableflip

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ukraine itself is a little stuck though. NATO wants this war to keep going as a way to further encircle Russia. Military expenditures are up. So Ukraine can't stop because they're a NATO puppet at this point.

And even if Zelenskyy offered to cede territory he'd get assassinated by one of the Ukrainian Nazi groups and there'd be a subsequent coup. It's just a huge pointless mess.

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any economically poor country needs to learn that the USA and NATO will just use them. We only give actual freedom to other empires.

[–] Zodiark@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

The point is to cash out using your own country

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder if Zelenskyyy could defect to Russia lmao, seems like they'd take anybody

[–] axont@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah something like that would be pouring jet fuel onto Ukraine's Nazis. They'd be organizing around the idea of the Jewish backstabber Zelenskyy for decades.

I can only imagine those fascist scum barely tolerate him to begin with

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

Modern Nazis are way better about optics, so they know him simply being in charge gives them the ability to say "but see our leader is Jewish, we can't Nazis!" and western dipshits will nod in agreement.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If I remember correctly he already owns a multi-million dollar mansion in Florida lol

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Excuse you sweaty, that's Mar-A-Lenskyyy

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I did not have sexual relations with that mansion

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

I believe it was Florence, but I’m not sure either