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Relevant due to the Canadian monument that was recently defaced. Image via RadicalGraffiti@todon.eu.

This is a plea not to whitewash Ukraine's nazi past or minimize the fascist presence in its forces, but to defend its people from fascism and imperialism. Anarchists and Communists are fighting for the Ukrainian people against Russia, and are calling for solidarity.

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[–] Despair@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

This post mirrors similar posts made in /c/world@lemmy.world and /c/worldnews@lemmy.world where the user making the post was trying to assert that Canada welcomes Nazi soldiers. You can skim my profile for comments I've made on those posts within the last 24hs if you want a bit of context.

Both of the original posts were deleted from their respective communities so trying to follow the comments leads to an error page informing you that the post could not be found.

Here are some screenshots I have of the users' partially censored usernames and the associated post titles which are very similar to the wording in the title used here (I'm using censored names because I'm unsure if naming users is against the rules).
lemmygrad user posting to /c/world@lemmy.world
lemmynsfw user posting to /c/worldnews@lemmy.world

I'm guessing that this is getting pushed due to a recent incident involving a Canadian House of Commons speaker, and trolls have been trying to push Ukrainians as Nazis since then.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

this is getting pushed

My stance is clear from the post body text and my post history.

Representing concern about fascism in Ukraine as a narritive only shared by pro-Putin trolls is tacit support for nazism. Your kind of propaganda is harming support for Ukraine in the west. Please stop.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's the point especially people in Ukraine don't seem to get.

Nobody gives a fuck about right-wing radicals or neo-nazis existing in Ukraine because they (like every group of idiots) exist everywhere to some degree. Giving their extreme situation, we can also somewhat live with them being used for a cause back when they were a vital part of fighting Russians at a time when the official army wasn't up to the task yet.

But only IF we feel that they acknowledge the issue and are able to handle them when they become a problem. And categorically denying everything and denouncing every question as Russian propaganda is doing the exact opposite. And it's actually fuelling the narratives they try to work against.

Or to paraphrase a particularly extreme example of Ukrainian¹: "Neither do neo-nazis (or any other right-wing radicals) exist in Ukraine nor have they ever existed there in history. All evidence saying otherwise is fabricate by or for Russia." That comment alone has probably done more good for Russian propaganda than a hundred of Russian bullshit stories. As we know history and he was either lying to our faces or insane.

¹Ukraine's ambassador to Germany in 2015

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