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Socialism and communism are terms without firm commonly understood meanings. I was using socialism as "on the path to stateless moneyless communism" - it's a way of using the state in more cooperative way vs an exploitative way, but it's still state oriented. As an anarchist, I'm not really that interested in promoting groups who want power. But I'm not really "against" people organizing in socialist contexts (I'm actually in the the DSA and RSA), again, I don't promote state power. I don't brisle at being called a socialist in a casual context. I would not call our conversation casual.
Also to be clear, as an anarchist, I vote because I'm also realistic and don't think a successful anarchist revolution is around the corner and I want my miinority and POC comrades to avoid the wrath of fascists while I work on furthering my goals in other ways.
The rest of your comment is full of insults, straw men, and other fallacies and I have to work.
You don't think that posting on a random forum is casual? Antagonistic sure, but also definitely casual. I use socialist in person all the time in order to get around sectarian bullshit in contexts that are much more formal than an online forum lmao.
You blunder into a room (full of minorities) to proselytize that everyone must vote for dems to support trans people and then dismiss a markedly anti-democratic and anti-trans action, deferring entirely to the singular authority of a man who you claim to be a detractor of. You use your 'anarchist creds' to attack the left with uncritical, ahistorical analysis, but won't criticize the establishment when there are quantifiable actions to criticize. You attack left orgs with basically zero institutional power for being pro-state whilst defending the literal US government. You resort to homophobic attacks to assume I am a useful idiot for foreign governments and perceived boogeyman and that I am no different from a Trump supporter. You don't even bother mentioning how dem support for literal nazis factors into your support. You don't respond to others who make compelling arguments against your tired points. Why the hell should I respond to you with anything other than dismissal?