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The European Commission Re-Imposes €376.36 Million Fine on Intel for Anticompetitive Practices in the Market for Computer Chips (www.techpowerup.com)
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The European Commission has re-imposed a fine of around €376.36 million on Intel for a previously established abuse of dominant position in the market for computer chips called x86 central processing units ('CPUs'). Intel engaged in a series of anticompetitive practices aimed at excluding competitors from the relevant market in breach of EU antitrust rules.

With today's decision, we are re-imposing a €376.36 million fine on Intel for having abused its dominant position in the computer chips market. Intel paid its customers to limit, delay or cancel the sale of products containing computer chips of its main rival. This is illegal under our competition rules. Our decision shows the Commission's commitment to ensure that very serious antitrust breaches do not go unsanctioned. - Commissioner Didier Reynders, in charge of competition policy

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[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They do that because that's the only way they can survive against AMD given how much behind Intel is in terms of CPU and GPU tech.

This is just blatantly false and disengenious.

Sure, Intels GPU tech is pathetic. But it's also not their business. Their only reasonable market use case is making a serviceable on board gpu for people who aren't going to buy a real GPU. AMD makes actual fucking graphics cards. Of course their GPU tech is ahead.

But Intel CPU tech is not blatantly behind AMD. Sure, there have been points where AMD has leapt ahead. But the same could be said for Intel. Sure there are advantages to some techs on the AMD side, but the same could be said for Intel. They're in competition and neither is wholy ahead of the other.

Yeah, you go on to pinpoint one specific use case that you have, which is very specific, and something less than 1% of 1% of 1% of their customers care about. Same could be said the other way.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

But the same could be said for Intel.

Give examples that don't involve shipping chips that need to be factory-overclocked and have much higher power consumption just to match AMD's chips (also: https://www.xda-developers.com/intel-core-i9-13900k-vs-amd-ryzen-9-7950x/)

For example, the Cinebench R23 results mentioned earlier had the Core i9 system consuming 461W of power, a whopping 110W higher than the 351W of the 7950X.

or bribing OEMs just so that Intel doesn't have to compete with AMD's high-end CPUs by making buying an AMD PC either impossible or very obscure.

Only an Intel fanboy can be oblivious to this and pretend that Intel is still in the CPU race. It doesn't even make sense when you add to that their anti-competitive practices. You shouldn't need to bribe OEMs to offer as few AMD options as possible if you were confident in your own CPUs.

one specific use case that you have

Same was said a long time ago about NVIDIA consumer GPUs supporting CUDA and look at where we are right now.