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Anti-LGTBQ “Million March For Children” outnumbered by “Billion March For Not Being Bigots”
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The Vancouver protest did well, outnumbering the assfaces by quite a bit. Multiples, maybe 5:1. Hard to tell.
Their talking points were incoherent and inconsistent. One person will tell you that they only care about teaching children and have nothing against trans people, and the next person will start screaming THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS.
Their chant game was absolute shit, they clearly hadn't workshopped for cadence or pithiness.
Lots of American politics mixed in, lots of attempts to shame the crowd about "free speech", they got a couple kids up to scream at the crowd.
Because there is literally no credible argument against teaching children about being tolerant towards gay and trans kid, other than hate on LGBTQIA+.
Hopefully with kids learning tolerance from an early age, they wont grow to be intolerant idiots like their parents
I do hate on LGBTQIA+. It sucks! The acronym is too damn long, and a pain to type out. Can't it be something easy to say and type? Like WIE - We Include Everybody, PAB - People Against Biggots, NBE - Non Binary Equality, or something like that.
LGBT+ is just 5 characters, less than your username
LGBT is also ok
Just use "queer" if it bothers you.
I still use LGBTQ.
You can just say LGBT+, the plus will cover everyone
There's even more letters now:
I call them Alphabet rights, because I know I'm going to miss one, and thankfully my more-involved friends show me the charity of teasing me for that only a bit.
Why would anyone tease you for that? Unless you're a member of the community, why would anyone expect you to keep up to date?
Because generally speaking, friends tease each other over mild, inconsequential things. You can tease each other over serious things, but you run a greater risk of your friend not finding it funny.
I think I'd tease them more for actually knowing than not.
You are spreading lies. I hope it's unintentional.
Minors are not getting gender surgery and the few that get access to anything hormonal are not offered anything irreversible.
Equating "story time" with adult burlesque is just simple bigotry. Someone dressing up as a princess to read a story to kids isn't burlesque, regardless of their gender.
How do you know story time is lead by burlesque performers? And how would you know if a woman in the library reading to kids is not also a night performer? You are the one making that connection. Gender and gendered clothing are not sex. The reason they are making a big deal out drag story time is to associate cross-dressing with sexual performance (i.e., inappropriate for kids). Why, you ask? So that the mere existence of trans women in our communities can be considered inappropriate.
So delaying or stopping puberty, for how long? your body will turn out exactly like if you had not delayed/stopped hormones?
Well, I'm no medical professional, but medical professionals have been prescribing puberty blockers for other things for decades, and if they were as dangerous as all that, then you'd think the FDA would have banned that by now.
Besides which, access to treatments like those ones are documented to reduce rates of self-harm, including suicide, among kids with gender dysphoria. And if your metric is the body turning out like it would have without these treatments, well, I hope I don't need to fill in the blank for you.
Yeah that is good for them. It just seems wrong to say its reversible.
They're more reversible than suicide.
But sure, I hear you, that doesn't actually answer the question. So here's an authoritative source on the matter. To drastically hyper-over-simplify, they basically are.
More than suicide yes, but the science is not there to be able to say its basically reversible. It will have an effect being without sex hormones during when you should have started puberty. Im not against the treatment, it just sounds ridicolous to say its will have no impact on your boodys development.
Wait, did I misunderstand you the whole time? Are you actually saying that the problem with puberty blockers is that they block puberty? Did you somehow miss where that's literally the entire point of them?
Also, repeating the same claim you just made again while ignoring the authoritative source I just provided that contradicts it is some shit I see creationists doing. Not a good look. If you support trans people, like you say in your next comment, then why are you arguing this in the same way someone who doesn't support trans people would?
Those are rational concerns. They really are. And these are all concerns that a physician could address when talking to their patients who might be starting to question their gender. And that's how it should stay.
All that to say that unless you are a trained physician, or are an adult experiencing gender dysphoria, or are the parent of a child experiencing it, it's none of your business. Trans people exist. Let them exist peacefully.
Why do you think im against trans people? Im not, the poster above complained about missinfo while saying its fully reversrble.
If your criteria are that a medical treatment is absolutely 100% safe and can be reversed as if absolutely no intervention was completed, then well, yeah, we shouldn't have Tylenol. Medicine is ALWAYS about balancing risks, and trying to make sure things are the least invasive option. It's done every day, in every Drs office.
Concern trolling about this particular case while spreading misinformation is in fact being "against" those particular people. Let them work out the safest option with their doctor in peace, like you would be able to do with your own health concerns. For all practical purposes, puberty blockers are relatively safe and reversible.
Please re-read my statement. I didn't say you are against trans people. I simply said that these are discussions best left to a person and their physician. As a cis man, I should have as much say in the matter as I do on abortion or breast reduction or hysterectomy, which is none until it directly involves me or my immediate family.
Hello, sorry this is off-topic but how do you like lemmy.film? I was thinking of making an account there but I was worried about whether it was gonna be riddled with transphobes. How's the vibe there?
If you want to know those things, educate yourself. I recommend google scholar.
This is a pretty rude answer to someone admitting they don't know much about a subject.
We live in an age where we have countless information at our fingertips. Google scholar is literally a browser click away. If they don't like social media answers from individuals because they're too rude then they should do their own research, on their own time, instead of complaining about the quality of free labor from a minority group that is constantly forced to justify their existence ALL the time. 🤷♂️
That's not fair to OP. He didn't complain about the answers anywhere. I'm just suggesting to folks here that maybe you'd reach more people if you didn't imply that anyone who asks a question is either stupid or malicious.
It doesn't seem too crazy to me to say that someone should be able to enter a conversation and say they don't know something without being attacked.
OK now I now you're trolling. Where did I attack the person I was responding to? This is just manufactured drama, how very reddit of you.
The whole point is to give educated information to children/teenagers. If one goes to the counselor and tells that they think they might be trans, the school will give proper information about it.
People act as if drugs are being given in lunch time to the kids.
Yeah, it sucks but the literal peasant class in your monarchy doesn't have actual rights.
Just the ones that allow Germans to lock up climate protestors for future crimes, or Brits for insulting their monarch~
Dude, governors are banning books en masse over here in the good ol' land of the free. Laws were never the problem. People always were.
No, they aren't. They can not stop people from making or purchasing those books.
They're removing them from state funded programs but that's a much different thing.
Ohh, yes they are. Go look it up and actually research it honestly instead of looking for holes to win an argument. It's happening here, especially in certain southern states, and it's bad. Some counties even shut down whole libraries specifically to get around anti-censorship protections we have here.
Do you actually not understand that libraries are mostly state institutions or what?
Do you not understand that it's mass censorship regardless and therefore you're wrong?
Who am I kidding? Of course you don't. You don't want to grow up and accept facts, you just want to be right. Well, go sod off and be right then, see if political tyrants will care either way.
That self righteous irony is absolutely amazing, but I've never seen you have a good take so it's not surprising.
Feel free to point to the part of the Constitution that guarantees all government libraries carry every book ever printed, or even the part that says they can't ban whatever they want from them.
Hell, point to your right to government funded library access at all.
If you weren't aware that your indignant screeching is the relative of the morons who think private companies can't moderate their platforms because of the 1st, consider this my last attempt to make you see the tiniest bit of sense in the world.
Good to hear