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No idea wtf you are talking about, but you sound like someone in section 2 or 3.
But Ill just quote you, yourself, from something you wrote 6 days ago:
While you were referring to people using common phrases entirely wrong, I think it applies to what you have written here.
There is nothing unhealthy about being grammatically correct. There is nothing new about this either. The pronouns They/Them are ancient as hell and have been a part of the English lexicon for centuries. It is not conceptually a remotely novel idea to use gender neutral pronouns in a gender neutral way.
Full stop, its that simple. There is nothing political, social, or whatever about using they/them.
It is purely grammatically correct, and always has been.
Consider this
Completely subtract the whole trans thing away, all recent kerfuffle, and just consider this very simple scenario that is not anything new, and is grammatically an occurrence that would have happened even hundreds of years ago.
Imagine you have discovered in a public place a personal belonging of someone, it is clearly valuable and has initials on it. You dont know the person's name, and you don't know who they are. You definitely do not know the person's gender.
Now, answer me this simple question: Would or would not the following statement aloud, even hundreds of years ago, be grammatically correct English?
"Someone lost their belonging! We should get it back to them, they probably miss it!"
Note how in this case we are still using Gender Neutral Pronouns, because we do not know the person's gender
Even hundreds of years ago, this would have been absolutely normal to say and grammatically correct. Gender Neutral Pronouns were in use in even extremely old books you can still find and read today.
Can we not dig up people's comment history to win arguments? That's kinda toxic.
If you dont like people using your own words against you, don't post it on the internet where the entire world can see it.
What, exactly, is toxic about holding someone to their own word?
What is toxic, precisely, about pointing out how a persons own statement mere days ago directly contradicts their current stance now?
If highlighting a persons inconsistencies and self contradictions is toxic, then so I shall be. I have zero issue with calling people out on their bullshit though.
Don't like it? Stop posting on the public of the internet on a forum where your words will be marked down for the rest of history (or at least, until Lemmy instances all suddenly stop being used, which likely won't be anytime soon)
There's a basic expectation, when you make an argument on a public forum, that it'll be judged on the content of the argument, not on who posted it. If you want to look through their history to see if they're a troll, and then just ignore them if they are, there's nothing wrong with that.
What you did was say "you're stupid and lazy," but for no good reason, you used that guy's own words to say it. That was entirely unnecessary. It didn't prove any inconsistency, it just proved that, like many people on Lemmy, the guy thinks a lot of people are dumb.
What is non-toxic about using someone's own words from past threads to insult them when you already have enough of a text wall to make your point?
Extremely reductive and explains why you viewed it as toxic.
That is not what I said, at all. You have focused on the wrong parts of what I quoted, and ignored the context of my statements surrounding the quote.
If you read what I wrote, you should see that was not what I said at all.
So yeah, I guess if you quickly skim over what I wrote, not really reading it much, focus on the quote I called out, and assume there is some sort of insult buried in their to be dredged up and squint your eye's hard enough, you can draw such a conclusion.
But I'd recommend go back and read what I wrote instead.