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How can we make lemmy a safer place for women? Is it even possible to? - literature.cafe
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this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2023
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the safest place for women on the fediverse is on hexbear without doubt. and its because the mods enforce nsfw tags and removals of posts that feature violence against women and carte blanche ban people who are harassing.
i feel like lemmy isnt developing fast enough to meet demands on the infrastructure. there needs to be a lot of safety tools added. tags for posts and being able to hide certain tags (so a bit like post flairs on reddit), DM settings where you have to 'friend' someone before you receive messages in order to avoid dick pics, etc. frankly i think the devs are chuddy for not adding pronouns from hexbear's fork
it’s honestly embarassing the lemmy devs spent so long looking for a way to build anti-fash measures into their software with the slur filter and still haven’t added pronouns to the main lemmy codebase.
i respect the project on the whole, but this is indicative of a lot of the arrogance I’ve lowkey seen around any idea that wasn’t originally there’s. hoping they get over whatever the fuck tech bro brain is going on, seems like they’re getting better since they let the hexbear devs merge most of the codebase back… besides pronouns.
ive called them out on it before, no response but i know they read it lmao
They tried to pull "but not all languages have gendered third person pronouns" as if the vast majority of people using Lemmy aren't just English speakers or some other European PIE language like German or Spanish.
Using this, not an expert on most of these languages, but from what I could gleam on Wikipedia:
Mandarin Chinese: Spoken language has no gendered pronouns, but written personal pronouns have gender, mostly due to Western imperialism
Spanish: Gendered pronouns
English: Gendered pronouns
Hindi: No gender pronouns. The language technically doesn't have third person pronouns.
Portuguese: Gendered pronouns
Bengali: No gendered pronouns
Russian: Gendered pronouns
Japanese: Gendered pronouns
Yue Chinese: No gendered pronouns, but people usually type with Mandarin characters instead of Cantonese characters
Vietnamese: No gendered pronouns
Turkish: No gendered pronouns
Wu Chinese: Same deal with Cantonese
Marathi: Gendered pronouns
Telugu: Gendered pronouns
Korean: Gendered pronouns although spoken pronouns are gender neutral like Mandarin
French: Gendered pronouns
Tamil: Gendered pronouns
Egyptian Spoken Arabic: I have no idea why Wikipedia doesn't lump Arabic together, but Standard Arabic has gendered pronouns
Standard German: Gendered pronouns
Urdu: No gender pronouns. The language technically doesn't have third person pronouns.
The major non-PIE European languages (Basque, Estonian, Hungarian, Finnish) don't have gendered pronouns. Outside of Estonians and that's mostly because of the admin of lemm.ee, how many Hungarian/Hindu/Vietnamese/Turkish people actually use Lemmy? It's a ridiculous excuse, and there's no reason why an instance based on a language without gendered pronouns couldn't reuse the pronoun flair as some other type of flair like location.
if lemmy takes off in India, Hindi is more of a concern, but they could literally turn the feature off if the user/instance's primary language was set to one of the mentioned languages.
Also trans spaces in Chinese have people refer to themselves as aunts, uncles or (based) comrades
I assume there are other ways they handle it in languages like Finnish
sounds about right. they have a guaranteed way to piss off & deter fascists, but they’re ignoring because?? pitiful behavior from otherwise competent men.
again, i like both of them, i just think they’re being stubborn and arrogant. no idea if our admins have pushed them on this at all, but i can’t imagine they haven’t advocated for it.
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Just have it as a fucking option. The servers that enable it vs the servers that do not enable it would be an incredibly useful tool of judgement lmao.