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I have to say I'm having trouble understanding your first sentence. The English is a little broken. And btw, it's "your problem", not "you're problem".
But from what I understand, you seem to be taking the opposite extreme and creating a false dichotomy. It's not "all or nothing" for governments. Having a small government (i.e., a government that doesn't spend a big fraction of the GDP) doesn't mean we don't have a military, but it just means that the government serves the people, which seems to be fading away now when people depend on the government's paycheck.
The cripple, the ignorant, etc, should be taken care of by their own communities and families. This is how it always has been, like 100 years ago. This is the best way to deal with this because not everyone deserves free help, since it's close-to-impossible to know whether someone is being willfully lazy or really needs help. When the government mandates theft from working citizens (whether with money printing or taxes) and giving it to the lazy, you're basically providing an inventive to be lazy, which is why the welfare recipient numbers just go up, and it never goes down. While on the other hand, in a closed community, people know the behavior of each other and each individual, and when someone needs help they receive it (and I have always helped my community when problems happen), and if they're being willfully lazy, they can be punished to adjust their behavior by the community members that know whether they deserve the help. This should be the goal: To incentivize productivity and support of your local communities... not to throw money at people. Money alone has always only made things worse, by increasing dependence and entitlement and even inflation.
The golden question here is: How do we get back people to the workforce after having created this huge dependence on free government money and reducing their freedoms as a price. I think society will have to collapse first, which is what's happening slowly by a reduction in the standard of living. The day will come, sooner or later, when collapse will create many angry people, and those will eat each other. We don't need Thanos for that. People will destroy themselves with their stupidity.
For some reason you think that the society can be efficient as much as communities are. This isn't true. Judgment from your community is much more accurate from a judiciary that doesn't know anything about you. I think this is your only problem in your thought process. Once you realize that people should be helped only by those who care about them, and helping people you don't know by giving them money wrecks them 99.99% of the time, you'll know where I'm coming from. Reworking legislation doesn't help, because humans have always been better at loopholing laws than following them. Politicians manipulate them to reach their goals (maximize dependence of the population), and people loophole them to maximize their benefit. This will never work. You will never, ever, find the set of rules that will make a perfect society, but you can find the set of rule that makes a perfect small community where people care for each other.
You don't need to move to villages to make this work, btw. You can just keep the government out of it, and make help come from local communities. People will help each other (and have always done that).
Communities are how humanity survived for thousands of years. The governmental structures, that are today corrupt and aren't made for us, simple people, have been up for only short period of time. I think the evidence isn't on your side. You're talking ideals about governments, then judging communities on points that are at best questionable and at worst a complete misunderstanding on how the world works today.
For example, you think judging a person by "absolute law" is possible. This is not realistic. Judges in law, today, try always to take the circumstances into account, include personal and daily behavior. A criminal who fights every day with everyone and/or ex-convict isn't like a good man who takes care of his family and does a mistake. This is actually the fault of our schooling system... they make you think that courts today, which are the playing field of the rich and whoever has the money wins, are the castles of absolute justice. This is beyond ridiculous... and shows that you've never went to court to get what's yours. Go and try to get what you deserve in court and good luck with that. Not once... not once I was able to benefit from police or courts because they're not for us, including cases where things were stolen from me. Yet schools brainwashed you with ideals that are never true in real life. You not realizing how the courts work today, yet defending them with ideals is the rubber stamp that proves that society is successfully brainwashed to defend its oppressor.
I like this saying because it accurately describes you: "We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying".
And I'll add, you're facilitating it.
I don't know why you think I'm not reading what you're typing, though I am actively avoiding following you into subtopics because I want this to end. So, have a good life.
FYI, I have a PhD in physics from a top university in Europe. So, believe you me, I know what science is way more than you.
Dude, your arrogance is another level. Of course you won't believe me, because that will shatter your whole belief system... "how could someone really smart believe all the things I disagree with?"... it's much easier for you to not believe that. Don't worry. I understand. Whatever makes you happy!
"Apocalypse"... says the guy living in the crashing economy where his heart could blow up before he gets a doctor's appointment, while my principles work in a capitalist country where I go to a doctor whenever I want and don't even pay that much. You really need a reality check on your arrogance and brainwashing. Learn how to end a conversation without being smug. It's unfortunate that I wasted my time with you and you learned absolutely nothing, not even that your health care sucks that you should be a little humble. Wow. Go have a good life and stop trying to convince me what they brainwashed you with. Just end it.
Oh, yeah. It's not the truth that your standard of living is shit now and going down by the day. It's all lies... you know. I'm making it all up. I should've made fun of you when you sent the Lebowski meme and ended the conversation, because that was when you realized that everything I said is truthful and called me an asshole. But here I am I learned my lesson. When an ignorant pleb calls you an asshole, it basically means they don't have a logical answer and it's the best concession I'll ever get. So, you go enjoy your dumb socialistic dream, and I'll enjoy my "childish anarchism", aka, capitalism, where I practice personal responsibility and reap the fruits of my labor and create a better life for my family and community. Just remember that the more you fall, the more I'll be watching and laughing. Your electricity is 0.5 Euro/kWh, and it was 0.3 when I left. And it'll just keep going up, and I'll just be laughing. When I see you cry on social media, I will only laugh more and say that you deserve worse, because I'm always right, and I will always be right, and that's why my standard of living is better than yours. Have fun licking the boot while convincing yourself that giving the homeless drink money is how societies prosper. Heh. Ciao!
Hahahahahaha... you're amazing! You're so brainwashed to the point you'd rather believe I'm a bot than micro-challenge your view of reality. Dude, that's a new level of pathetic.
And FYI, I make high 6 figures in USD, so kiss it. You think I would stay in research in Germany accepting money stolen from the population? I'm a man of principle, and you're a clown.
Never forget. I'm watching and laughing as you fall.
I do understand that you all come from an assembly line, but guess what, I'm not like you. I'm an individualist. That's why I'm having a better life while you spend more and more of your little pay while the government steps on you because you don't matter. I have a brain to use that wasn't washed in believing that the shitty life you're living is great, just because the homeless get monthly money for beer.
And that stupidity of not understanding stealing from public... big ooof... dude, your brainwashing is so strong. I can see why you'd call any fact I say "gaslighting".
Cheap bot, yet it's good enough to keep you on your toes... hahahahahahaha!