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[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The soldiers believe that instructors have never fought a war like Russia's invasion of Ukraine β€” the first clash of two heavily-armed militaries for decades.

Most Western forces have experience of very different conflicts, like those in Iraq and Afghanistan where their side had huge advantages in resources and far superior technology.

Well, that makes sense. Not every tactic and strategy works for every situation, battlefield, the arms at location and enemy.

The Western army fought no army on the same level as them for quite a while. Always inferior ones. And all memes aside, the Russian army is not that far away from the Ukrainian army, despite all incompetency and corruption. It's also rare for Western armies to not have air superiority.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think that "first clash of two heavily-armed militaries for decades" is quite misleading here.

They always manage to make this sound like idiot Westerners are decades behind as they haven't fought a serious war for so long they have no clue. When the reality is the opposite: Their instructors don't remember how to fight trench wars 1950s style with only light infantry and very limited support... because why would they?

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