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And they said we should just accept it on their credibility.

I had the occasion to look this up again, so I thought I should post it for more than the shitlib I got it for (so now it's also for the three of you sorting by new at this hour)

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Remember when Russia then proceeded to invade Ukraine with no justification?

The proximate justification was several days of escalating artillery fire on Donbas. Whether you approve of that justification or not, it is not "no" justification and it was not a false flag. It also highlights how unnecessary it would be to stage a false flag because Ukraine had been doing that kind of thing for 8 years. Zelensky wasn't about to call off Azov any time soon.

[–] NaibofTabr 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Ah, you mean when Ukrainian forces were shelling Russian forces because the Russians were shelling civilians before the full-scale invasion started.

Ukraine's artillery was targeting military positions - Russian artillery - while Russia, he said, was also targeting towns and cities.

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You stupid ass, that article was published two months after the SMO began and only discusses details of the fighting since then, there is no discussion of Ukraine's escalating bombardment of the Donbas that led up to the attack, or any of Russia's given reasons for attacking with its army. Such as thousands of Donbas civilians slain by Western Ukraine's fascist paramilitaries, which were well documented by Western press and denounced by US politicians from 2014 until Feb 2022.

Ah, you mean when

If you're going to post like a neck bearded smuglord you could at least understand what the fuck the discussion is even about. Fuck you, you Nazi sympathizing piece of shit.

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fucking libs really out here posting ukkk state propaganda like it's some sort of slam dunk

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Liberals love repeating ancient talking points like it’s some genius revelation that’ll own the commies

[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] NaibofTabr 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

I think your arguments would be a lot stronger if you posted a picture of your dick.

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Ukraine's artillery was targeting military positions - Russian artillery - while Russia, he said, was also targeting towns and cities.

How did towns and cities in Donbas keep getting hit with artillery if Ukraine wasn't targeting them?

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ah yes, the classic military positions of "towns and villages filled with civilians," mostly those occupied by nongovernmental forces.