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There is a a lot of legitimate inquiry occurring and as someone who does genuinely want answers, I am disappointed but not surprised that people like this guy are coming out of the woodwork and discrediting the work that has been done.
I truly believe that the renewed interest and news is because this topic has gotten too big to keep covering up. There are whistleblowers, trained fighter pilots, and commercial airline pilots coming forward and speaking to the legitimacy of UAPs. There is compelling civilian video because everyone now has a good camera in their pocket.
They have been captured on video that has been officially released by the Pentagon, including a video of a silver orb bearing resemblance to the “Foo fighter” UAP that pilots have been reporting since the Second World War. They are being discussed in official memos to Canada’s Prime Minister after our Defence Minister was clear that what was shot down was an object, not a balloon. The memo states that there is a risk that the object could be found by indigenous hunters - if it’s a weather balloon or something innocuous why would they care? They have been observed by US navy fighter pilots entering and exiting the ocean.
Look, I understand that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but we’re not even allowing broad, legitimate discourse about this topic without mockery and eye brow raising. How will we ever get to the bottom of what is happening if we can’t even seriously discuss it? Why would hundreds of trained pilots lie about what they have seen? It’s not just one guy. And it seems like it has been happening for a LONG time.
The questions I want answers to:
However, at this point I would even accept an official saying yes they’re real and it’s not human or no here’s what they are with a thorough explanation but we don’t even get that much.
So they break our understanding of physics, but we are able to shoot them down?
And they have been showing themselves, just out of sight, for decades? Without any other effects?
If they're aliens capable of interstellar travel, then they really suck at utilizing their technology, which would be far far more advanced than ours. Or they're doing this intentionally, which also would make no sense. Other explanations are far simpler and more plausible.
The reason people mock this is because people go to the most outrageous conclusions before anything more reasonable, without sufficient proof to rule out simpler explanations. You know, a process which every other field of science uses.
Both things can be true - it could break physics and we can shoot them. Or there might be different types. We don’t know until we take it seriously.
If you pay close attention, I have never once in this thread alleged that they are aliens or interstellar. I don’t think that is a fruitful starting point.
But yes, there have been sightings in our skies for decades. Why would hundreds of people at risk of great personal reputations damage over decades lie about what they see? What is the personal gain?
This is exactly what I’m trying to do - discuss the topic rationally because the stunt this guy pulled is a great disservice to the progress that has been made. First we need to account for what is actually known by experts, and we’ll never get there if people come to the table mocking it before any work is done.
You haven't said they are aliens directly, just heavily implied it. One can clearly read that out from your comments.