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[โ€“] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • Ukraine: would be nice but it'd break the current farming subsidies program
  • United Kingdom: just a matter of time
  • Norway (and might I add Iceland and Switzerland): I'd love nothing more than this but we both know they won't for different political reasons. Never gonna happen under the current treaties.
  • Serbia, Belarus, Russia: fuck no
  • everyone else: as soon as they respect the Copenhagen criteria, sure
[โ€“] egonallanon@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you underestimated the bloody minded xenophobic national pride that dragged the UK out of the EU. It will be a long time before the political will to even try and rejoin emerges. Even then I suspect it will be hesistent as there's no way the EU will give us the same deal we had last time.

[โ€“] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe I do. But I've already seen polls that appeared to be favouring (albeit marginally) the UK rejoining the EU. And this is only after a handful of years.

Please don't take it as an offense, that's not how I mean it, but I think Brexit showed that the UK needed the EU more than the EU needed the UK, so I expect those numbers to grow even further as the people realize it.

48% of us realised at the time :(

[โ€“] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If Serbia, Belarus and Russia switch to proper democratic rule of law, equivalent to Western Europe, why not? Integration is the best way to prevent wars. Just because they're barbaric dictatorships now doesn't mean they can't get better in the future. Just look at Germany im 1940 versus now

[โ€“] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 points 2 years ago

True for Serbia and Belarus, but Russia is so big - both in terms of surface as well as population - that it wouldn't really work with the way the union is currently structured. I'm not even sure if it's possible to restructure the union in a way that allows Russia joining without them becoming an hegemonic power within the union itself.