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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Polyamory. I knew a lot of people didn't understand, but the visceral disgust at the idea that a lot of people have is surprising.

[–] hellweaver666@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I just don’t get it. Having a relationship with one person is hard work (anyone that says otherwise is either very lucky or their partner is making all the effort). Why on earth would you want to make your life even more difficult?

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For some of us at some times in our lives, having a relationship with two people is less work. It requires much more communication, better scheduling, and much more attention to your partners' feelings ... but that might be a good investment of time anyhow, and often gets overlooked.

I find that having multiple partners helps me appreciate each partner much more, for themselves -- it's easy to mix up how much you love just having a partner and being loved, with how you actually feel about that person. Poly gives you the distance and contrast to see your partners clearly, and that can be really special.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

I’ve never been polyamorous but I have been a player before and a period during which I had lots and lots of casual sex with lots of different women actually gave me a better appreciation of women as individuals.

There’s something about not having one person be your everything that allows them to be a real person instead of a symbol.

[–] LegionEris@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Tbh, my wife and I have been together for so long and through so much that is has become easy. We've been together more than fifteen years, and both of us consider our childhoods of abuse to be the hardest periods of our lives. We know and trust each other deeply and implicitly. She's had an increasingly serious second partner for more than five years now, and it's become pretty easy. I'm casually looking for a boyfriend, and she's excited for me. It's the foundational strength of our relationship that makes this lifestyle possible. We've built a big, full life together, and we have enough love and space in our lives to share <3

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah that's indeed something. I had a sex partner on top of my romantic partner for a few years, and that worked okay - since you only meet for shagging - but wow would two romantic partners be too much for me. Still, I was perfectly fine with my romantic partner also having another partner in addition to me. They could handle it fine!

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"Or their partner is making all the effort"

OR their partners aren't super needy and insecure ;)

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is it really surprising? Monogamy has been essentially socially enforced for millenia at this point.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah but if you see monogamy as bad and immoral and try to explain why ... somehow I expected at least some understanding. I thought other people were afraid to say what they really think.

Edit: it was a while ago, I was young and naive

[–] kennismigrant@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Monogamy has been essentially socially enforced for millenia

In some cultures only.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Perhaps the ones where people feel viscerally disgusted by its alternatives.

[–] sndrtj@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago

In most. And effectively all of any serious size.

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I've been in poly relationships for years. They work really well for me and my significant others, but we are pretty discreet about it because folks tend to be huge assholes about it.

Generally, you don't see the poly relationships that work great; mostly, people see the type of scenario one of your other commenters described because the stable relationships are less visible.

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is so strange to me. Not the polyamory, the weird hate of it. I'm in a monogamous relationship and polyamory just doesn't appeal to me. But I don't really give a shit about what other people do or who they fuck as long as it's consentual.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

To me it always feels as if people are just loudly signaling their own unhappiness in their existing relationship when they hate on polyamory. It's a weird form of surpressed and internalized envy.

[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

No hate from me but two is almost too many people for me. I love my SO, I just have a really hard time being around anyone for any length of time. Different strokes for different folks.

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've not met many poly groups but my experience was strained. First time meeting these people and the only thing they spoke about was them being poly and how much sex they were having. It was a bit odd for a first meeting with strangers. Not usual dinner conversation I felt.

[–] Adramis@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, the polycules I've met have all been hot messes that caused a lot of pain for everyone involved (and adjacent). At least a few have this attitude of "Monogamous people are prudes and need to open up, polyamory is HoW hUmAnS sHoUlD lIvE". Maybe it's just bad luck, but as a result I generally keep a bit more distance with my poly friends.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Here I am surprised that a person is surprised that non-preferred sexual acts would trigger visceral disgust.

I mean, sex is actively disgusting unless your partner just happens to have the right combination of signals to transform it into something non-disgusting.

The wonder is that any sex ever is seen as non-disgusting.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Polyamory is not group sex.

Actually, if you don't take care of yourself in polyamorous relationships, you might have less sex than in monoamorous relationships.

Also, no, consensual sex is not disgusting. You might not want it, but then sex is not consensual. Bodies are not inherently disgusting.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

ehhh bodies are pretty gross. teeth in places mashin up stuff, grimy bacteria in all the folds and crevasses, stinky sweaty fluids and excretions, there's tons of stuff in the human body that is either conceptually quite horrifying or that we are downright neurologically programmed to be disgusted by. the eroticism of it all really just allows us to look past the disgust and see desire, joy, pleasure. that's the subjective element.

that dude was dumb for thinking polyamory is a sex act though lol