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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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The University City officer who attempted to pull the teens over for traffic violations lost sight of the car just moments before the crash. Police dashcam footage released Monday shows the officer driving by the scene, but the crashed car is not visible because the area is so dark.

Over "traffic violations."

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Was not a prolonged chase. 3 fifteen year old kids turned off the lights and put the pedal down. Police sergeant instructed officer pursuing to stand down, but by then the kids went off a corner at a high rate of speed and plowed into a (thankfully) vacant house.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lights and siren on, if someone drives off instead of pulling over for a traffic violation, a chase serves little purpose. They have the license plate number, and can add "fleeing an officer" as another charge.

[–] elmicha@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought the same, but the car could be stolen or have stolen license plates.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Someone could drive away from a police stop for any of a thousand reasons (all stupid, granted), but any danger to the public is hypothetical.

Chasing someone who's driven away presents an immediate and real danger, to the cops, to the perp, and to anyone along the path. Hundreds killed annually.

No chase, says me,arguably unless the perp is known to be armed and dangerous.