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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

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Two main points:

  • no one unified distro to keep things simple (thread OP)

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  • people don't care. Someone else needs to advocate, sell, migrate, and support (medium term) Linux (whichever distro they want) for the intermediate term (few months at least) - thread response).

I think a lot of the 97% desktop market share is like this, instead of the hands on 2-3%.

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[–] elouboub@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (10 children)

You don't need a unified version, you need easily accessible linux hardware (desktop, laptop, phone, etc.). People do not give a swimming fuck about which OS they're using. Whatever's on their hardware will become their main OS.

https://puri.sm https://slimbook.es https://system76.com/ https://tuxedocomputers.com , they are all doing a good job of leading the charge and trying to occupy most segments, but what they lack is still QA, ease of use, and most importantly marketing and support from the linux community. They need to dump huge amounts of money into marketing (which they probably don't have) and the linux community should altogether stop buying bullshit pseudo-supported linux laptops from Dell, Lenovo, and HP.

There are linux shops out there. Stop giving your money to other companies and wishing on linux dominance. It's nonsensical.

[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (7 children)

People do not give a swimming fuck about which OS they're using

Yep. I was an outlier and used to care. Now as long as it does what I want I really can't give a shit. Due to the fact that it doesn't come standard on many machines it's an extra annoyance to set up. And you'd better do your homework to make sure what you bought is supported.

I have a whole life and a bunch of hobbies that are more interesting to me than religiously following which hardware might work, constantly tweaking flags, and running things in wine. It's a fine hobby for those that love it but I don't anymore. And most people never do.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can see a future where it is not permitted to install only one OS. Either you have a micro os that lets you download a full one or you have to decide the OS before getting the pc. The idea of hardware default coming with a proprietary os is just crap imo.

[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it'll be a long time before that's true for the layperson. I also think that it'll be an even longer time before that's true for the hobbiest. But I do agree it's coming and that it's crap. I think it'll be like game consoles (or like Mac is now) where you pick your flavor, buy your system, and it'll take a team of dedicated crackers to get us access to our own stuff.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure I understand you correctly. Pushing a certain OS (or browser, or anything for profit) is absolutely unacceptable. We want a pc, not a "windows pc" by default. The OS market is pretty much a monopoly up to this point and presumably for the last 5-10 years, MS has only made this much profit because it was forced on consumers.

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