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I don't know if you've noticed this, but threads or comments about Lemmy or the Fediverse get downvoted a lot on Reddit and trolls who claim that it's "dogshit" and "not going anywhere" get systematically upvoted.

Some of those trolls get then exposed when you ask them what Lemmy instance they tried and one of them with whom I had a surreal exchange answered with something like "yeah ofc I used Lemmy, this is the instance: join-lemmy.org" ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

It's frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that "Lemmy is not ready yet" and that there's "no viable alternative to Reddit".

This and the overwhelming number of comments being "against the mod protests" just prompts me to question whether there isn't some brigading being organized straight from the Reddit HQ.

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[โ€“] PortugalSpaceMoon 63 points 2 years ago (20 children)

As a tech savy person, I can confidently say lemmy is not a viable reddit alternative at this stage for an arbitrary reddit user. The UI and clients are just terrible and full of small bugs, annoyances and inconsistencies. Sure, it will eventually get there, but negative opinions about lemmy are not completely unmerrited. Just as I'm typing this, I get screen tears and flickering elements. It's just very, very bleeding edge and I can absolutely see how someone trying it for 5 minutes would be turned off. If you want to capture the masses, the user experience has to impeccable.

PS: my first try at submitting this response timed out. This is my second try.

[โ€“] AlexanderESmith@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thing is; I don't want the "arbitrary reddit user". I want the low-effort user to get irritated and leave.

[โ€“] AnonTwo@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would likely also err content creators to leave, just because fewer people would be available to see the posts.

There certainly can (and should) be places that your typical user doesn't want to go to, but if there's nowhere for them to go then it will cause a hard stop on fediverse adoption.

Plus, it's not like many of these issues wouldn't affect non-arbitrary users. just they're willing to put up with it. And that's not a sign of a good site.

[โ€“] AlexanderESmith@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

You aren't saying anything untrue. I just wish there was more of a barrier to entry. Less bots, less trolls, less people just puttering around. I want engaged discussion, that low-effort shit-posting.

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