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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (35 children)

To be clear I want a 20 minute long presentation and the start and end of the movie explaining that the federation are the bad guys, why their systems do not work, as well as an overview of the horrors of fascism. During the movie, the fascists must be depicted to be fundamentally wrong. Bonus points for them also constantly being portrayed as incompetent, by eg slipping on a banana peel every 20 seconds (and then being eaten by a bug, which are explicitly communist and also good).

EDIT: This unironically

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (30 children)

I think the issue is that you shouldn't make fascists "fun" or "cool" in any way whatsoever.

In both Star Wars and Troopers the fascists are undeniably fun and entertaining to ride along with. Fun, cool or entertaining things inevitably make people want to imitate or copy-cat them for funsies, and this rubs off into personal identity.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The only movies that portrayed Nazis correctly are the Indiana Jones movies and Come and See. One for portraying the Nazis as a bunch of incompetent buffoons and the other for portraying the Nazis as a bunch of incompetent genocidal buffoons.

[–] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Reposting one of my old comments:

Fundamentally satire of fascism doesn't work because fascist ideology revolves around the idea that you're a loser made weak by the removed other but can be made strong and cool by doing all the violence.

If fight club had a scene where Tyler Durden tried to ask a girl out in queue to the McDonald's breakfast menu, pissed himself out of nervousness, and then broke into tears in front of everyone. All that would change is there'd be a fascist org called Piss Boys whose initiation would involve drink a lot of water before queuing up for the world's greasiest hash browns.

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