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[–] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If nothing else, this shows that the average gamer is not a min-maxer because humans in BG3 are just fucking trash. So many of the other races come with incredible power and the added benefit of not looking like their name is fucking John.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah Deep Gnome, Halfling, Duergar and Half-Orc are by far the strongest "meta" races for min-maxxers but nobody plays them. Everybody plays dragonborn and human even though both are RP tier and objectively inferior in their abilities and powers.

[–] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm ashamed to say I played a Dragonborn (for coolness) on my first playthrough. I hated up kinda hating it after a while, though, because her face didn't emote like the humanoids would.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tbh I was kinda surprised at how much expression they did manage to give the Dragonborn. It’s not as much as the humanoid faces of course but it’s leagues better than, say, any argonian character in TES.

[–] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but there hasn't been a TES release in over a decade. From looking at videos of Starfield it seems Bethesda hasn't made great strides in that department, though.

BG3 also has that massive canyon of difference between the player and the companions since they were mocapped and acted out.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

That’s absolutely true, I suppose I should’ve been more specific. Despite the animations being inferior to the origin characters & any face captured animations, I still appreciated that the non human species still had a good deal of expression to them since the standard in most games I’ve played is emotionless jaw-flapping.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, Half elves get shields so they are one of the best for casters, at least for me. It's also funny that even if you psam crossbows, the game takes the equiped shield AC into account. It doesn't hurt that they are the best looking race of the "basic looking races" either. Then, it's stru that an actual min maxer would get a 2llv fighter dip so they would get shields too, but depending on progression that dip will take a while and you feel the weakest in early game so... yeah.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Shields are a noob trap. Better to get dual-wielder feat on casters to dual wield 2 staves (Hag Staff, Sparkler, Rainmaker and other good staffs are available easily in Act 1 and only get better). You end up with much better net stats and similar AC, as well as more unique magic item slots. Melee should be using 2-hand weapons.

Only person that should use a shield is a ranged striker, which will always have a level in either fighter or ranger so will already have shield proficiency.

[–] Lurker123@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Human’s shield proficiency is pretty dang good on a whole bunch of classes that can’t use shield (at least until you get high enough level to multi class 1 in fighter for both heavy armor and shield).

[–] Bloobish@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

thing is you can do half high elf get the shield and also a badass magic cantrip to set peeps on fire, also can't be put to sleep or charmed

The dark vision is huge too.

[–] Lurker123@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago
[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

high-elf cantrip scales off int and is generally pretty bad (if you have high int, you're a wizard and already have that cantrip and plenty of other options).

Wood-elf gets movement speed

[–] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

You don't have to pick firebolt, though. You can pick Friends for advantage on almost every single charisma check in the game. You can pick minor illusion to distract people and make enemies move into spots you'd prefer them to be in, like if you want to push someone off a ledge.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

not being able to be charmed is pretty useful in this campaign too...

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

So take half wood-elf which is better in every single way