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I recommend this video to look more into OSR philosophy regarding the rules: https://www.youtube.com/live/bCxZ3TivVUM?si=aZ-y2U_AVjn9a6Ua

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[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (11 children)

5e has too many rules? If anything it seems to be lacking rules. D&D in general has too many options, but 5e often has nothing if you want rules to handle specific non-combat situations,

When systems go even lighter, it stops even feeling like we are playing a Game, and it starts feeling like annotated improv, which is very much not what I want to play. It never feels right to me as a player to be making sweeping declarations without knowledge of what the GM and the other players are planning.

[–] TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Okay, explain to me why do you need rules for holding your breath in 5e. Because that's a good example of too many rules, in OSR you would use something already existing.

And you do you, but really the OSR tend to teach players to find ways to avoid rolling altogether by stacking deck in their favor before attempting something.

[–] Kryomaani@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Okay, explain to me why do you need rules for holding your breath in 5e.

Because water is generally everywhere and you might go in it? Surviving poisonous gases? Strangulation? If you wanted to point at rarely used rules there's a plethora of better options to pick. This is more like asking why do you need rules for combat.

[–] TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago

Except the rules are written in such way that they render holding breat irrelevant. You may as well write "unless in combat a character can hold their breath. When in combat, you must roll concentration at end of your turn or suffer level of exhaustion. DM may decide to treat particularly dangerous or prolonged situation as combat at their discression". And done, you didn't need to invent new rules just for it, you used an existing system. You could even simplyfy it further and just slap it under concentration rules.

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