I was taught that factory workers in the north had it worse than slaves, that the ~~Civil War~~ War Between the States was about states' rights, that Confederate generals were noble and honorable while Union ones were incompetent drunks who relied on essentially human wave tactics and burning down cities to win. Gone With the Wind was presented to me as an accurate and unbiased depiction of history.

Growing up I definitely had a couple awkward dinner conversations with certain "history buff" relatives where I was like, "Well sure, but still, I mean, obviously we can all agree the South was wrong, right?" and suddenly people start exchanging looks kind-vladimir-ilyich

I actually got a similar reaction once for saying the Crusades were bad, Catholics are fucking wild I tell you.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I actually got a similar reaction once for saying the Crusades were bad, Catholics are fucking wild I tell you.

My convert Catholic dad once told me that all the crusades were "self-defence" against Islam. I guess there must have been a really big threat of an islamic invasion of Europe from the Baltics.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i'm pretty sure at least one of those crusades resulted in christian armies sieging/looting/pillaging/committing atrocities in christian majority cities on their long march to Jerusalem, with most of them starving or dying of dyssentery or deserting along the way. Most effective form of self defense I've ever seen. And even when they made it to Jerusalem, surprise surprise, turns out there was a lot of christians and jews coexisting with muslims and they all got treated as muslims by the invading armies.

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