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[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't doubt this as it's happened to others, but Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty is a literal CIA mouthpeice and tends to make stuff up.

[–] midorale@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago
[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The problem with the RFA source is the CIA funding, not that it's in English. It's pretty disingenuous to try to imply Newizu is pro-Putin or anti-imperialist, or anti-west or anything else that would qualify as a separate bias or agenda.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

I don't think they're implying anything like that? A Russian source talking about a bad thing Russia did is generally more reliable than a CIA source saying the same thing, since there's less incentive to make stuff up.

[–] midorale@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I read the previous comment. I tried to find a source they would prefer.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

I searched for her name and despite the RFE article being a week old, no other more credible outlets have picked up on it. Maybe other outlets are using a different romanization of her name but this is certainly a red flag.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

It literally isn't. RFE is definitely a US propaganda platform, but it objectively has nothing to do with the CIA these days. But you should probably check under your bed one more time just to make sure.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 78 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

RFE also "objectively" had nothing to do with the CIA for nearly 20 years after it was created, at which point it turned out the CIA had been funding it all along. But now we know they've stopped because they said they did, and anyone suggesting that they're not editorially independent is a paranoid loon, just as they would've been in the 50's and 60's.

Some of us don't believe that the people whose job it is to lie stopped lying because they said they did. Suggesting that the CIA is still doing things that they did regularly and successfully kept hidden in the past is not a conspiracy theory.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

RFE is definitely a US propaganda platform, but™️

That's all you need to know. Scrap the whole source.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

IDK it might be beneficial to know if it's ANOTHER one of the 15 intelligence agencies the US operates...

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why? What possible reason could you have to belive they just turned over a new leaf?

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

"The CIA said that they don't have anything to do with Radio Free anymore so it must be true."

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago

The CIA routinely funds groups covertly. As is the case with RFE, we are often able to confirm this covert funding decades later.

A main purpose of the CIA is to obscure what groups the U.S. supports. Did they just stop doing their job one day?

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

sourced directly from the fertile fields of your ass