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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Capitalist governments might pick winners, but it is general in the context of those enterprises providing support for their other enterprises.

And it wasn't a genocide yet when a Jewish owned business got turned over to an Aryan. This was a fascist government choosing winners and losers. Those winners would choose to support the Nazis.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

You're wrong. I'm not going to elaborate any further because i feel you have taken the discussion to gross and unconscionable place.

You seem to care more about the violation of "free markets" that don't and have never existed, than the pointless eradication of millions of human lives.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I don't care about free markets. I'm just noting that tyranny and oppression come from more than just free markets. In some cases, tyranny via fascism comes from a promise to put free markets under state control.

[–] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is just wildly incorrect. Fascism does not make the promise to put free markets under state control, more importantly, none of the fascist societies put free markets under state control.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fascism does not make the promise to put free markets under state control

It does when the politics of the situation suits it. This is how Mussolini made the trains run on time. And as I said before, the Nazis exerted state control over local businesses by taking away some businesses from Jews and giving them to loyal Aryans. State control over the economy is exerted, just not to the benefit of everyone.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

thats

thats just moving around the capitalists

thats not state nationalization

thats just doing a racism

and lies, mussolini never made the trains run on time

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago

But it isn't just moving around the capitalists. It is choosing the winners and losers. It is then giving state power to the winners and using state power to punish the losers.

And it is doing a racism, and it may not do what the politicians say, but it is a change of the political and economic order.

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