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If my child wanted to be called "he" at school, I would want to know it, no?
If the child is too afraid to ask it's parents, maybe it's time to call child services or something? Like clearly, something is wrong and having the school change the pronouns without the parents knowledge ain't gonna fix this child situation. Also, the parent will eventually know it..
There are a lot of situations where Child and Family Services won't step in, but it's still not something that you would want to live through.
Sometimes it's just about hiding well enough to not get kicked out, so you can finish school or be able to stay in real school instead of getting placed into religious private school.
Parents may eventually find out anyway, but they also might not. I was a goodie two-shoes when I was kicked out for being gay, but most parents didn't seem to know about the drug/smoking/drinking/sexting habits of their children.
Such as when the parent invokes their religion as a reason to be shitty to their kid.
The proper path to that is better and more communication between the school and the parents, not authoritatively banning gender affirming care.
Not if that communication will put children in danger.
But authoritatively banning basic gender affirming behavior doesn't hurt the child?
Maybe the answer here is put more effort than to make a one sized fits all solution to this crisis.
I did not say that in any way. Of course banning gender affirming behaviour hurts the child, just as telling the parents might do.
So is your argument that using a child's preferred pronouns are not a forming of gender affirming care?I'm kinda confused on your position.
My position is very simple: don't tell kids parents about their choices, because telling them might make the parents hurt the kids. What's the issue with my position?
I was under the impression you were against telling parents, which made some of your posts seem very contradictory.
What? I am against telling parents. The comment you replied to literally says: "don’t tell kids parents about their choices". I have no idea what you're understanding here. All my comments are talking about the same thing and are fully logical if you read them from the point of view I'm writing them from: don't tell parents, because they might hurt their kids.
I think the disconnect was your first reply which made me believe you were playing devil's advocate.
I am also not 100% on board with omitting the parents. I think if there a possibility that the children are being harmed that needs to be something our educators are trained to recognize, no different than if the children were showing up to school malnourished or with unexplained bruises.
It's not the school divisions responsibility to determine which ideological beliefs are best for their children and what secrets should be kept from them. They are legal guardians for a reason and have every right to informed of their children's behavior.
But I do feel the school divisions has a responsibility to let the proper authorities know if any kind of child abuse is occurring, which includes not allowing a child to express the gender identity they are comfortable with.
But you're not going to fix these issues by telling the parents about the childs choice of gender. At best the parents already know, at worst they'll hurt the child because you told them.
Not if there is a reasonable assumption this will lead to abuse. Children absolutely need reliable adults outside of their parents whom they can tell secrets without being afraid of their parents finding out. This is the same as a school telling parents that their kid is homosexual - no, the parents don't have every right to be informed of this.
Of course they do. But since the school can't really know if telling the parents will lead to abuse, they shouldn't tell the parents, so the parents don't abuse their children.