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[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Tell that to the jury. What are you expecting to happen?

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wow, it is almost like a place where juries let people off on the gay panic defense is a place that is unsafe to be as a trans person.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

weird how "gay panic" is a defense allowed by the courts, but an appeal to jury nullification is not.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do other countries not have juries?

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Are other countries juries exposed to our media ecosystem (in the same way) which the US government supports and which pushes vile transphobia constantly?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Some other countries (and just a couple US states) explicitly ban the gay panic defense.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll tell em you're gay and I panickededgeworth-shrug

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you don't have any interest in a good faith discussion, you can just go ahead and stop replying to me please.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

good faith is being obtuse very-intelligent

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Good faith? I'm sorry, could you be more specific? What do you mean?

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the state, inside and outside courtrooms, to shut down hate crimes.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well that's a very easy thing to say but I'm afraid you're going to have to be more specific.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

funny how we can defend property through a system of laws and enforcement but that's not specific enough to stop hate crimes

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay so you don't know then? It's ok to just say that.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

don't know what? laws that criminalize being queer should be stricken from the books and the people who do hate crimes should be punished. both of those elements are being rolled back in the US and you're being obtuse.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

laws that criminalize being queer should be stricken from the books

There are no such laws in existence in this country.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile in reality, there is still plenty of shit on the books that will be enforced again if the conservative Supreme Court changes precedent and new laws are being passed with the ultimate goal of exterminating trans people.