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[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (82 children)

You are literally deliberately starting shit and posting to others about how best to make hexbear look bad. Your post history is not private.
You were pointed to apologia by Adrian Zenz and you defended it, you were pointed to Nanjing massacre denialism and you were offended that the war crime denier was called a dipshit.
You are not subtle, you are not clever.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (21 children)

Is denying the genocide against Uyghurs (which several Hexbears did) really that much better than defending Nazis (which I did not do)?

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Youve literally been provided with several sources proving there isn't a genocide going on, in this thread.
You have refused to engage with them. Why do you think you're still owed civil discussion or good-faith engagement?
It is not disagreement, it's you refusing to engage in good-faith discussion.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

None of the sources conclusively prove that there is genocide, and neither are there sources disproving it completely. That of course means that no one knows for sure if the claim is true (except the Chinese government). Feel free to believe that it is false, but I am going to believe that there really is such a thing going on.

You have refused to engage with them.

I have refused to engage with them? That's a ridiculous claim.

it's you refusing to engage in good-faith discussion.

You sound hypocritical. You are not even in good-faith discussion.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

You are asking to prove an unfalsifiable thing. The sources prove that the camps aren't camps, that Zenz is a liar, that Falun Gong are liarsz that Uyghurs aren't being forced to not speak their language, that Uyghurs are growing in populayion, that Uyghurs aren't kept out of political or cultural posts. Yet you still claim it might be going on.
There is no source that indicates a genocide is going on. The story of a genocide is going on has been proven to be propagated by liars. There is no rational reason to believe a genocide is going on, there is literally nothing indicating one is going on.
You continuing to want us to treat China as if it is committing one isn't based on one shred of fact, but instead because you feel like it might be possible. What you feel like isn't something that inherently deserves respect. It is honestly kind of racist how you keep insisting china is commioa genocide, despite all evidence to the contrary.

I have refused to engage with them? That's a ridiculous claim.

Instead of actually engaging with their content and acknowledging what they say, you move the discussion (as you are doing here) to one about what feel is happening.

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