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Ive being itching to talk about this so im doing it now. This isn't aimed at you personally btw but more a critique of the culture I saw on lemmygrad a while back.
Full disclosure I left lemmygrad for the precisely male centric ML brand you've got going there.
This "social justice is bourgeoise ideology" crap became beyond insufferable and lemmygrad while it can be great and has some amazing users is so drugged up on the "I'm an orthodox ML who's read loads of theory and everyone is an American revisionist or a stupid anarckiddie" trope that it becomes a bit of an insular circlejerk without any self awareness.
Take the fact several of your biggest trans posters left (about a year ago, maybe a bit sooner) after repeatedly calling out problematic behaviour from users (misgemdering and transphobia) and seeing them get a slap in the wrist but if someone stepped outside of the church of ML they get an insta ban? Seems like the social justice inclusion element of lemmygrad and creating a safe community for queer people took a back seat to policing ideological purity.
There's also this insufferable "women can't do revolutionary organisation right" energy from the men on that site that while claiming to be feminists, do literally the bare minimum to engage or understand and speak with women on it and it very much comes from a place of male chauvinism and condescension.
I remember the anti sex work threads and people openly being allowed to call sex work "rape" and as someone who's being raped that's kinda fucking vile, immature and sexist given those reactionary takes always came from the same male posters.
Finally I didn't like how when it came to the sex work debate you all leant on esparanza or whatever her name is (commie ex sex worker) and her justifications for working with ICE, terfs and other groups to stop sex work because oflemmygrads immature male lens and subsequent hatred for sex work and the nuance around it and women/queer people and I found it to be downright paternalistic misogynistic chauvinism.
So yeah if we are throwing shit then as someone who was a heavy lemmygrad user a year ago, there's a reason I and several others left and you all lack the self awareness to see why despite us giving you constant feedback.
I hope and trust the community has grown since then but let's not get picky with each other about our sites cultures when both aren't perfect but this one makes me feel more safe.
I mean since a year ago patscos and reactionary types have been purged, probably these occurances will have to happen a lot more from now, and more often.
Either way, good post, I'm starring it because I'd lime to sit down and study it a bit and maybe look for ways Lemmygrad could be improved.
I remember the patsoc purge, that was fun and did the dongistan comm ever come back?
Cool cool. I don't want to be like kicking off a war or demonising here, but if we are airing site cultural issues on this thread then what I've listed would be my personal experiences.
In the end we never stop growing and learning right? I'm not the same gal I was when I used lemmygrad so you'll know better than I where the sites cultures has moved on and where its still stuck in its ways.
what does that mean
try again u did something bad
they* asked a good question but didn't content warning a rhetorical mention of sexual assault and then proceeded to burden their* otherwise good question with some reactionary rambling
I apologize for assuming your pronouns. Please provide them so I don't make the same mistake in the future. Shall we discuss the rest of the content of the post?
And yes, complaining about social justice and polytheism (while trying to somehow lump them in with American imperialism) is reactionary rambling. So was your attempt in the other thread to characterize Ukrainian neo nazism as some kind of LGBT project.
I will use they/them from now on. Apologies for assuming your pronouns. You were right to correct me on that matter since I did indeed assume you were he/him, which was wrong of me, but considering that, in your post history, you have been calling Ukrainian neo-nazis pro-LGBT and ranting about how Amercan fascism is "polytheistic" and "hypersexual" it seems like you weren't actually a non-binary person and might just be a reactionary who saw an opportunity to concern troll. Since you don't respond to any of my actual points and keep deflecting, I have trouble believing this isn't the case. If that burdens my apology, so be it, but I see my apology and your reactionary rhetoric (which you have yet to explain) as two unrelated issues.
Thanks. I think I better understand now. Death to imperialism. Death to capitalism. Death to fascism.
America is imperialist. America is bad. America is capitalist. America is consumerist. America is fascist. That is the problem. Not "polytheistc hypersexualism" which is just reactionary rambling. Especially since America is sexually repressive, conservative, and demographically monotheistic.
You are correct that the upvoting of the BRICS drawing is problematic, and I agree with your criticism of our community in that regards, and will join you in that criticism, though you are burdening your question with reactionary rambling.
What are your thoughts?
???? You truly haven’t been here for the volcel police struggle sessions. I’m going to need some further clarification, for example, by hypersexualism do you also mean queer/trans people existing?
نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.
cringe
based
a lot of americans are very reactionary and against social justice in general, so I don't know why you are trying to paint social justice as somehow inherently american. de dollarization and anti imiperialism are also good and based, so I hope you aren't harboring reactionary opinions behind your otherwise cool user name.
EDIT: Just found your deleted comment in the mod log. On one hand you rightly criticize the horny posting about the BRICS women and ask hasn't the global south been
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"raped enough"On the other hand, you complained about polytheism, which seems weird and reactionary and chauvinist, considering many people in the Global South, like Hindus in India, and many indigenous cultures, are polytheist. Why do you have it out for polytheism specifically? The imperial core is not polytheist, and if they were, that would be incidental, rather than inherently the issue with imperialism/capitalism.
Polytheism is simply the worship of or belief in more than one god. I would not characterize "celebrity worship" (a rhetorical phrase), as literal polytheism, because nobody actually believes American celebrities are Gods in the literal sense of the word.
Except you are operating on a purely rhetorical definition of polytheism that has nothing to do with actual polytheism, as practiced by, for example, Hindus, Taoism, Shenism, Chinese folk religion, Japanese Shinto, Santería, most Traditional African religions, and various neopagan faiths such as Wicca..
I was using them as an example of what Polytheism really means. It is a real anthropological term you were misusing. I wasn't suggesting you brought up Hinduism. I was the one who brought up Hinduism to correct your misuse of the term "polytheism." American culture is not polytheist. The majority of Americans identify as Christian which is, last time I checked, a decidedly monotheistic faith.
Because you were mixing up Polytheism and "social justice" with American reactionary anti communism. Your post which was deleted by the moderators was a hodge podge of reactionary misunderstanding that was trying to lump together several unrelated things. It's increasingly clear you're some kind of reactionary.
America is when words have definitions, and the more definitions words have, the Americaner it is. No I don't "prove your point."
da fuck?