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I dont support the war but what would you have them do?
-Jump off the aircraft carrier in droves and die? -Try to mutiny? ----How to go about a mutiny? ----You cannot proselytize easily on-board. ----Assuming you do amass a sizeable motivated group, how do you plan your takeover? You need to consider ongoing logistics like food, water, and waste management. You need to organize navigation and direction of travel. ----Any effort would result failure eventually. -Kill themselves another way? -Sit in their racks all day until they fly off all protestors and discharge them under conscientious.objector clause? (Probably also serving a sentemce in the brig and or Leavenworth)
-Assume that nothing can be done and blame it all on the act of enlisting? ----There will always be young people that want to enlist --------Economic reasons. Recruiters pushing bullshit (financial incentive for recruiters). Parental /ancestral pride motivation. (My grandmother was in the Marines and my uncle too, eg.). Impulsive behaviour. Dares. 'Wanting a challenge'. And yes, Wanting to participate in war / kill people (i think exceedingly rare except im specific niches like some Army and Marine Corps communities / jobs.
I simply think putting the accountability on the pawns is easy, yes, but also not very tolerant and very narrow-minded.
So let's starve the pawns to death and replace them by draft all while the dukes and priestesses of the war machine are living rich, insulated, and good lives. Rinse and repeat until we have massacred our young and scarred generations.
Idk resign from the army dont sign up in the first place, anything but continue on a mission to kill innocent people. Yeah it sucks when fascists take power but like i thought the whole point of history class in school was to recognize it and fight it, not just go about your business.
'Resign' A lot of people did have this opportunity, but many did not because they have a 4-10 year contract when they enlisted initially. So, this is mostly fair-and a many people have resigned at the end of the contract, and many have not
One can resign thru being a conscientious objector but Im not sure how that works and likely your average sailor, soldier, or marine does not know how it works or even that it is an opportunity. Still, lack of knowledge-legally is not a defense, but ethically it is a consideration.
'Dont sign up in the first place' This is valid. However, for many people, they are living in poor conditions and feel themselves to have no other options economically to sustain their life. They are still complicit yes, but it is worth considering. Making a decision like under duress is not exactly informed consent.
Your last point I also agree with you. It is very unfortunate, the conservative MAGAs......It is shameful and disgusting how they have risen to power and maintained that power.
But once you are on that ship with years left on a contract, it is a little naaive to think they can just stop. I would be keen to hear from someone who is German and has had Nazi party ancestors chime in. Or just German in general Im aware you are all quite liberal and educated about your past, I believe.
Deny unlawful orders. Anyone can do it.