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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When it's trying to conserve something good. For example, I'm learning the local Indigenous language because when it comes to Indigenous issues, I'm a conservative. I believe in preserving traditional culture. Language is part of that, I want to help keep the language alive. Earlier this week I learned how to perform a ceremony to talk to the Rainbow Serpent. And I'm a proponent of land back.

All of that is conservatism and it's good.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Conservation, that's what you're looking at. That's not conservatism, conservatism is a political ideology that is about free markets and maintaining power structures that are have been or are in place. Of a ruling class over the working class to put it succinctly. There's more to it than that and I REALLY recommend you read up on what conservatism really is and what neo-liberalism really is.

Conservationism does not equal to conservatism. It's sounds like you're confounding the two to be equal or part of one another and that's not the case. You can be a conservationist and most political ideologies.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe in traditional cultural values such as respecting Elders, the Indigenous family structure, trans inclusivity, and a reciprocal relationship with the spirits. I want to go back to the good old days and take our modern technology (but not AI, fuck AI) back to the past with us. I want to make Australia great again.

All of this newfangled capitalism, wage labour, homophobia, misogyny, I hate it. We've got to go back to traditional family values.

Come on, doesn't that sound at least a little conservative?

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No, it doesn't. Again, READ UP ON WHAT MODERN DAY CONSERVATISM IS.

Family values isn't conservatism, that's just being a decent human being. Edit: Unless that's one where the male figure head holds all the power and such then that's conservative. If it's egalitarian then no, that's not.

Being against bigotry is denial there's a hierarchy and out groups the law binds but does not protect.

Being anti-capitalist is certainly NOT conservatism.

Again, read on it, you're misinformed.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm of course aware of Edmund Burke's role as the father of conservatism, and his goal of preserving the hierarchical structure of the monarchy by replacing divine right with generational wealth. Indeed, the overarching aim of the conservative platform is the restoration of the monarchy de facto if not de jure.

But I assumed we were using some other definition of conservatism, because you called the party of taxing billionaires conservative. The Democrats have many, many flaws. But voting for them will not bring America closer to monarchy. Voting neutrally, which is to say abstaining, is what will allow that ongoing process to accelerate. The neutral voters are in My estimation conservative by a Burkian reckoning, for they aid in the revival of the monarchy.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Taxing billionaires is not enough, they should not exist.

Edit: You're also conflating liberalism with leftism and the Democrats being left, which it is not.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree, we should guillotine all the billionaires.

And the Trump presidency is harming our ability to organise for a revolution, because we're too busy reacting to his bullshit. We need to use our votes to buy more time to organise for a revolution. For example, take Palestine. During Biden's presidency, there were student encampments, we were moving the needle, politicians were starting to listen. And then you morons elected Trump, and now we're too busy with No Kings to do Free Palestine. You lot kneecapped the movement to divest from Israel.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump is just the USA unwrapped, it's all the horrors without the paint on it. I'm hoping him being elected will get those on the fence to realize the system is bad and start voting in primaries.

As for your beliefs, if you want to incorrectly label yourself conservative, go ahead. Just know it's incorrect and you're choosing the sides of Reagan, Thatcher, Bushes, and Trump doing so.