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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 102 points 2 days ago (6 children)

This is a class problem not a sex problem

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think they are mutually exclusive? I hate Lemmy sometimes. So incredibly myopic and laser focused one particular perspective.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They aren't. The Epstein class didn't exclusively harm women. But nobody likes to mention the male victims it seems.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

You didn't disprove anything though. The perpetrators were predominantly male. Before you start screeching Gisslaine stop and reflect

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

M.H. Allegation: A 2021 lawsuit filed in Queens, New York, claimed that the "M.H." individual was under 17 and working as a high school intern when Epstein "induced" him into sexual acts, causing lasting mental anguish.

Whistleblower Reports: Some individuals have come forward identifying as male survivors associated with Epstein's network, including connections to other high-profile figures and trafficking rings.

Context of Abuse: While the majority of widely reported victims were young females, testimonies and legal filings suggest Epstein targeted young, vulnerable individuals regardless of gender to facilitate his trafficking ring.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

.... says the one screeching...

[–] phx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a bit of both, but the gender problem is at least partially derived from the fact that the larger portion of assholes at the top are men.

Getting rid of them or clipping their wings would likely be overall better for women. Replacing them with a billionaire-class of women would not.

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sex doesn't matter. It is sad that people are blind fighting each other and getting fooled by assholes

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand people who dismiss an entire gender's lived experience. How can you be so patronizing

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Op just baiting to get upvotes. Sadly there are too many comments agreeing with her. Fortunately top comments are the correct ones

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I think the men on this platform struggle with any topic relating to the other gender. Case in point: needing to frame every problem exclusively through the lens of class struggle, even if it means demeaning the strugge of women or minorities. It's weird

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's right it goes in the "class issue" hole lol.

I get why people see it as a sex issue since most of the rich people in positions of power that seemingly don't face consequences are men.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

most of the rich people in positions of power that seemingly don’t face consequences are men.

which is just pure coincidence, right? in a world where genders are split 50:50, it is just the men who have skills necessary to reach these positions. no gender bias here at all...

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of them come from old wealth.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 0 points 23 hours ago

oh. well that explains it, because i am sure they don't have daughters in the old wealth, so the gender issue is off the table. hurrah!

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Two things can be true at the same time... but yeah, stay distracted from the class issue it's ONLY a gender thing for sure 100% no way it's anything else make sure it's only about men and gender and definitely NOT class. Lol

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gender and class warfare are intrinsically tied together.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. I guess I should've made that clear on my first comment. I was more commenting on how people seem to see that men are in these positions, so therefore it's a gendered issue, and then they stop cuz they think they already understand the nature of the problem but there's actually more going on than what might seem obvious on the surface.

I'm just sick of people getting distracted from class issues.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m just sick of people getting distracted from class issues.

And I'm sick of gender issues being dismissed because it's not as "important" as class issues when they're very much connected.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not being dismissed but you clearly want to take it that way.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's quite a dismissive attitude in this entire thread about gender equality.

Crying about class warfare when women bring up gender equality does make you sound dismissive.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Ok, I read through other comments and you're right. There are people in here commenting that's in not a gender issue at all which is kind of wild. I wasn't very clear in my first comment that it's both issues. Some people see the gender issue and think that's all there is to it but you can also fit it through the "class issue" hole.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Two things can be true at the same time

Exactly. So time for you and the other clowns who came with false dichotomy of "it is not gender issue, it is a class one" to shut up.

You are literally arguing against yourself and you don't even realize it. It would be funny if it wasn't sad.

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago

You guys are sooo dumb I cant.

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago

there are no bad woman and all man are bad i guess

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I read through other comments and I didn't realize the sentiment some people had in this thread.

It absolutely is a gender issue and it's wild to try and say that it's only a class one.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Stop trying to make everything a gender issue and misreading everything. Clearly it's both, but trying to pretend it's not a class issue is just a complete misdiagnosis.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Plans to remake the square hole video but each shape is a civil struggle painted to make the people fight among themselves

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. The fappening did not end any careers of celebrities

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

Plenty of women have lost their jobs/careers due to their nudes being leaked.

[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Por Que no los dos!?

[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You don't think Epstein's homeys had any sex problem?

/s

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 2 days ago

I think they had a whole fucking lot of sex problems.