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I'm guessing that's because you think voting for a candidate supports them in more than one way?
The first way that voting for a candidate supports them is that it helps them beat the opposing candidate, the R fascist. So you're giving them the "better than actual Nazis" award, I'm sure you agree.
But I'm guessing you think voting for a candidate gives them support in more ways than just that one?
It's more of neo-liberal Dems are fascist, they just have a nicer visage about it as they provide more of the boots.
You shouldn't round so imprecisely.
I'm just curious, where in the realm of conservatism is their views acceptable and not acceptable? I'm not confused but many people seem to give neo-liberals a free pass when that's the ideology of Thatcher and Reagan. Becoming mainstream in the Democrat party while the Republican party tilted further into conservatism, especially after Gingrich said essentially no more compromise with Democrats.
I don't understand the question; your syntax is too confusing.
When is conservatism acceptable?
When it's trying to conserve something good. For example, I'm learning the local Indigenous language because when it comes to Indigenous issues, I'm a conservative. I believe in preserving traditional culture. Language is part of that, I want to help keep the language alive. Earlier this week I learned how to perform a ceremony to talk to the Rainbow Serpent. And I'm a proponent of land back.
All of that is conservatism and it's good.
Conservation, that's what you're looking at. That's not conservatism, conservatism is a political ideology that is about free markets and maintaining power structures that are have been or are in place. Of a ruling class over the working class to put it succinctly. There's more to it than that and I REALLY recommend you read up on what conservatism really is and what neo-liberalism really is.
Conservationism does not equal to conservatism. It's sounds like you're confounding the two to be equal or part of one another and that's not the case. You can be a conservationist and most political ideologies.
I believe in traditional cultural values such as respecting Elders, the Indigenous family structure, trans inclusivity, and a reciprocal relationship with the spirits. I want to go back to the good old days and take our modern technology (but not AI, fuck AI) back to the past with us. I want to make Australia great again.
All of this newfangled capitalism, wage labour, homophobia, misogyny, I hate it. We've got to go back to traditional family values.
Come on, doesn't that sound at least a little conservative?
No, it doesn't. Again, READ UP ON WHAT MODERN DAY CONSERVATISM IS.
Family values isn't conservatism, that's just being a decent human being. Edit: Unless that's one where the male figure head holds all the power and such then that's conservative. If it's egalitarian then no, that's not.
Being against bigotry is denial there's a hierarchy and out groups the law binds but does not protect.
Being anti-capitalist is certainly NOT conservatism.
Again, read on it, you're misinformed.
I'm of course aware of Edmund Burke's role as the father of conservatism, and his goal of preserving the hierarchical structure of the monarchy by replacing divine right with generational wealth. Indeed, the overarching aim of the conservative platform is the restoration of the monarchy de facto if not de jure.
But I assumed we were using some other definition of conservatism, because you called the party of taxing billionaires conservative. The Democrats have many, many flaws. But voting for them will not bring America closer to monarchy. Voting neutrally, which is to say abstaining, is what will allow that ongoing process to accelerate. The neutral voters are in My estimation conservative by a Burkian reckoning, for they aid in the revival of the monarchy.
Taxing billionaires is not enough, they should not exist.
Edit: You're also conflating liberalism with leftism and the Democrats being left, which it is not.
I agree, we should guillotine all the billionaires.
And the Trump presidency is harming our ability to organise for a revolution, because we're too busy reacting to his bullshit. We need to use our votes to buy more time to organise for a revolution. For example, take Palestine. During Biden's presidency, there were student encampments, we were moving the needle, politicians were starting to listen. And then you morons elected Trump, and now we're too busy with No Kings to do Free Palestine. You lot kneecapped the movement to divest from Israel.
Trump is just the USA unwrapped, it's all the horrors without the paint on it. I'm hoping him being elected will get those on the fence to realize the system is bad and start voting in primaries.
As for your beliefs, if you want to incorrectly label yourself conservative, go ahead. Just know it's incorrect and you're choosing the sides of Reagan, Thatcher, Bushes, and Trump doing so.
The USA was always fascist, ask any person of color or marginalized group, especially LGBT+ people from the 60s-90s. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not paid attention.
My partner is a disabled trans nonbinary otherkin mixed-race American. @Mechoselachia@multiverse.soulism.net what do you think, is life worse under Trump? How are your SNAP food stamps since 2024?
My neighbors are being disappeared off the streets, food is more expensive and more rotted, and a little less than half my blood relatives argue for my genocide. Back when there was at least a little friction in the government against the fascist factions, it felt like there was a guarantee of a minimum standard of living that just doesn't exist now.
Is it easier or harder for you to organise the communist revolution after @beardededsquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone's side decided to abstain in 2024?
Voted Harris jackass. I did the "right" thing and compromised myself. Keep your neo-liberal apologia to yourself.
I have LGBT+ and POC friends who are also on food stamps. It's always been bad. No one cares about them and I'm tired of people pretending Democrats do.