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What neo-liberals and their apologizing masses don't understand is we don't see a difference anymore. They're both conservative parties that only care about their payout ultimately. Advancing billionaire objectives and ignoring us. I really wish they'd understand and stop trying to fucking argue against this.
You think taxing the rich, removing money from politics, and giving everyone food and healthcare is conservative?
Those are progressive ideals, not neo-liberal ones, and neo-liberals are currently the ones controlling the Democratic party unfortunately.
That's not to say that neo-liberals and conservatives/the MAGA party are the same, or that the Democratic party and the Republican party are the same, but it's important to recognize that neo-liberals explicitly do not want to tax the rich, remove money from politics, or give everyone food.
Those are literally the DNC written platform. It's on their website in downloadable PDF form. It's how they have always voted.
What do you mean that's how they've always voted?
jfc
So as it turns out the entire congressional record including every bill introduced, voted on, passed in either chamber, and signed into law is publicly available.
Although I could mention about 56 years ago they voted differently, so not "always".
So if you've looked at that record, you'd see where Democrats have recently voted against taxing the rich, against food assistance, and against keeping dark money out of politics, and you'd see the absurdity of a sweeping claim like "that's how they've always voted".
Also you realize there are more Democratic politicians than the ones who serve in Congress, right?
Link it
There's tons of instances of Democrats voting for tax cuts for the rich/against tax cuts for everyone else at the state and local levels, so I'm not sure what links you want there
Ending a shutdown is not as simple as signing onto every GOP agenda, while it at times has been a mistake, but at the very least the DNC defunded the DHS.
The DNC also tried to ban all non-individual spending and cap individual spending in 2003, it was overruled by the SCOTUS' Citizen United decision in 2007-2010, and part of the core DNC platform is overturning that, which would ban AIPAC funding entirely for both parties.
The DNC and their platform are progressive.
They may talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk.
They walk the walk and then a legion of disingenuous assholes claim otherwise all over the media in a bid to dissuade progressive voters.
If they walked the walk, they'd have an easier time getting elected and staying elected. If they walked the walk, they wouldn't have let Republicans walk all over them for the past few decades. If they walked the walk, they wouldn't have allowed the country to inch frighteningly close to fascism.
I'm all for voting for progressives. We need progressives. We need progressives that will actually do progressive things. Sitting here and acting like the current status-quo-loving DNC is actually super progressive because of some bullet points on their website is not going to get us there though.
You can't simultaneously hold the stances that the system is corrupted by campaign funds and also that people only rationally vote based on candidate's policies. Those a mutually exclusive beliefs. If everyone voted on policy and not optics via the media and socials, then campaign funding would have zero impact.
Dems platform is amazing, full of necessary reform and life saving changes, and taxing the fucking rich.
Serious question - is the DNC paying you to say all this? Is the DNC in the room with you right now?
Ah so now you're just saying things, cool
I don't see any points to argue
Which is wild, you've been incredibly adept at coming up with things to argue against this whole thread
Are you seriously trying to last-word me? Lol pathetic. Go right ahead though, if that's what will soothe your ego or whatever
you haven’t been paying attention.
The "both sides are same duh" idiots still can't connect these dots
Democrats don't want those. At least at the leadership level. Their voters do, but the leaders don't care.
They should be core conservative policies on account of them being the cheapest options in the long run.
conservatives vote for small government, big business. and by small government they mean gutting social programs, and giving money to billionaires.
these social programs were to fix problems with huge expenses over the long run more so then some bleeding heart reasons.
they literally save a dime now to have you pay a dollar later.
conservatives are so short sighted they can’t see their own d$(&
Conservative means "maintaining the old ways" in politics.
It means maintaining constants through change. So it can be applied way more broadly, actually. The 'old ways' or 'traditional' ways are agnostic to whether those ways are progressive or not.
'Progressive conservatism' exists. Many consider the form (or a prominent one) that it takes to be 'neoliberalism'. Neoliberalism isn't specifically used as a defined term political science.
So these terms have a whole lot of room tp be used and misused as needed.
Hard disagree on this one.
Naturally.
Conservatives aren't working towards those things, no.
That's the point