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[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ok so what do you describe yourself as ideologically?

Also, thinking of it: you give Mussolini the right to describe the ideology he created. Why don't you give Lenin the same right and call the USSR a socialist state?

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Socialism and fascism are mutually exclusive, though. Mussolini, Franco and Hitler were extremely quick to eliminate socialists because they were aware of this.

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you seriously think a fascist society could have universal healthcare, free education to the highest level, lowest levels of economic inequality in the history of the region, guaranteed housing and jobs, lack of exploitation of other countries, respect for minorities (ethnic and otherwise) and for people with disabilities... you simply don't understand fascism.

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Again, you literally don't understand fascism then. Systems are analyzed by their outcomes.