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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 62 points 5 days ago (6 children)

He's not wrong. It'll be a really shitty journey as it's just voluntary homelessness, but you can choose to live as a hobo if you're brave enough. And if you're brave enough you can cross borders without permission. Not a good idea at all, lots of walking, hunger, sleeping outside, and hiding from authorities, but hey, you can.

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 27 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Choosing homelessness when you have any other option isn't brave, it's fucking stupid.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

"Homeless" can mean different things. It could mean "can't afford a home, can't keep a job" like the typical assumption, or it could mean "between homes but capable of getting another" or it could mean "has plenty of money but no home base, just sleeps in hotels or camps and can afford food and clothes when needed".

It's not a lifestyle I'd want right now, but it doesn't automatically mean one can't thrive. Humans were nomadic for millennia before agriculture gave us a reason and the ability to just stay in one spot.

[–] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They weren't being literal with the homelessness. And anyway, that statement is still a bit close-minded, while it obviously wouldn't be a comfortable experience, it is possible and not everything needs to be the smartest decision ever. Sometimes challenging yourself to do something extreme with lots of risk keeps you more alive than comfort could.

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 8 points 5 days ago

The line that separates courage and stupidity is always very thin, be it warfare or..... Checks notes..... TRAVEL

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 7 points 5 days ago

Lots of people walk or bike around the world.

What's more valuable to you? Having an experience that sounds outlandishly amazing? Or paying rent? We might not all agree.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Depends on your definition of homelessness. Living in a shitty, broken down van probably counts. But what about living in a $200k Mercedes Sprinter van converted to a camper, with a stable job that lets you work remote? What about a retired couple living in a 40' RV, after spending their working lives dreaming about traveling around the country?

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're not homeless if you have a 200k sprinter, also it's not in the spirit of this post which claims that travel isn't a matter of money.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

That's fair, but where do you draw the line?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

It's not a choice I'd personally make, but it's often associated with mental illness or a deep feeling of the need to be free (especially in young people). For the former it's associated with PTSD and feeling like if you no longer fit into normal life. For the latter it's kinda like backpacking across Europe, but across whatever continent you're on, often staying at punk houses and squats along the way.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

There are worse options.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That’s great and all but please take a few step to the left, you are blocking the sunlight

Oh, sorry Diogenes!

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Hobo sort of implies a migrant worker. Tramp is someone that travels about, but isn't interested in working. Both used to be associated with freighthopping trains. Do people stowaway on trains anymore?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have to assume some people still hop trains. At the very least some crust punk squatter types probably do

[–] DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's nowhere to go on a train tho. They're all tanks and shipping containers.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I assume train hoppers have tricks to get inside boxcars. Also there are different types of cars besides tank cars and boxcars, like coil cars:

And open-top hopper cars:

[–] DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's my point, I never see boxcars anywhere.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When you say shipping containers, do you mean these guys?

[–] DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes. I work next to a train yard and 90% of what I see are these guys.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Interesting. In my neck of the woods, I mostly see boxcars and tank cars. When I lived in the western US I would see those a lot though.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Then how did I get stuck at a railroad crossing today?

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hitchhiking and couch surfing is a thing.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's just being homeless...

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 4 days ago

Nobody said it isn't.

It is traveling and it doesn't require lots of money.

Not if you’re doing it while traveling.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think that is “travel” in the spirit of the discussion.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not travel in your (and to be honest, most people in the comments) preferred version. The OP never mentioned luxuries, or even comfort. The point is that if what you really want to travel, you most probably can, independent of your financial situation.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I get it that s/he is technically correct. I think that was pretty clear in my statement.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

My point is: it's not technically correct, it's just plain correct. Plenty of people I know go for cycling tours of Europe, packing food and sleeping in tents. Some do two weeks hiking.

Travel is not only flying to the other end of the world and eating fancy food cooked for you by hired chefs... you can travel basically free if you adjust your expectations.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 4 points 5 days ago

People do this all the time. Typically it's people on bikes, crossing something.

$5 a day? Pure luxury!

https://adventure.com/how-to-cycle-around-the-world/