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[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Omg you're that guy who came in to argue with me about liberalism in the other thread, it makes complete sense that you're a "fuck Hasan" guy. Are you an Asmongold fan?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

what the fuck? where did i do this? and no, i'm not an Asmongold fan. i think ALL streamers are scumbags and part of the problem. Hasan is the most least part of the problem, however i still dislike him

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

huh? I wasn't directing that comment at you at all, what made you think it was directed at you?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is this... Not a DM? It's appearing on my end as DMs? Where are you seeing it?

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Oh wow, that's really strange! No, I wrote it as a top-level comment on this post. Here's a link to the comment on my instance

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's bonkers lol. I just opened my DMs and was like "what are you even talking about?!"

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Obviously some code gremlins inside the Fediverse somewhere decided that you needed to be informed about two random people arguing about politics and low stakes streamer drama on the internet. The people must know!

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Man what a huge disappointment given I find nothing of value in streamer drama. I'm sure it's entertaining if you're into that sort of thing but if I wanted unlikeable people yelling at eachother while crowds of people who already knew who they wanted to win and didn't really care what the actual outcome was watched, I'd go to a backyard pro wrestling promotion lol

To emphasize: not trying to yuck anyone's yum, but I have so many people in life come to me like I for sure definitely have a favorite streamer when how I try to engage with streamers and their opinions on things is I don't lol

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't care for streamer drama either. I like watching Hasan's stream because he generally has pretty good analysis on things most of the time, and as a European it helps me stay informed about US politics from a leftist perspective, but he's not for everyone, for sure.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think us leftists in America need to put together a wrestling promotion further left than AEW. WWE is MAGA, AEW is DNC. We need a wrestling promotion equivalent of punk rock/actual leftists out in the streets doing things to communicate with the world what AEW and WWE miss about what goes on around here. I think it should be Luchadora inspired since the queer/femme scene in northern Mexico is really popping off right now

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know much about wrestling, but that sounds awesome and you should do it!!

[–] Magnum 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So why are you guys arguing in my DMs?

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This is a comment on a lemmy.world post with a different author.

What client are you using?

Gremlins in the server again?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago

Default lemmy UI

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

not what i'm saying, but whatever

edit: since you downvoted me witheut engaging at all, i'll reiterate what i said before: Hasan is the most least worst streamer. if i am forced to recommend a streamer, he's the one i'd recommend. i just don't think that streamers offer much value, politically. people don't really go to them and have their minds changed. that happens with in person activism. i think Hasan offers value in the form of propaganda presence, which i think all any of us can ever offer here on lemmy. however, if you really want to hear from someone useful, go to a soup kitchen run by a mutual aid project and talk to the people there about what to do about all this. where i'll give hasan his roses is he's generally speaking in alignment with people like that. however, my main criticism: streamers as a group aren't great, remains my main criticism

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dunno about him, but I am. What about it?

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for responding and for your honesty. I'm really curious about a few things, I hope you don't mind if I ask you some questions and maybe we can chat a little? I'm not interested in judging you or shaming you or anything like that, but I would love to understand you.

  • What got you into watching Asmongold?
  • Did you have any strong political/ideological positions/beliefs before you started watching him?
  • What are your political/ideological positions/beliefs now?
[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What got you into watching Asmongold?

He's just funny. Also I don't like modern trends in modern gaming and shows, and he's not afraid to call them out and ridicule them.

Did you have any strong political/ideological positions/beliefs before you started watching him?

I was always pro free market and anti communism. It didn't change at all. I'd say I was against any immigration barriers before watching him, but I shifted towards moderate barriers (working people only, instant deportation for crime) but that wasn't just only his influence.

I tried watching Hasan before, but for someone who grew up in powerty in broken post communist economy, his pro communist stance is just pure cringe to me.

Additionaly Asmon sometimes tells about his life hacks and ways to cheat the system which is all too familiar considering my childhood life. I sort of identify with him, maybe?

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thanks very much for the honest reply :)

He’s just funny.

That's fair, how long have you been watching him for?

I don’t like modern trends in modern gaming and shows

Which trends bother you the most?

for someone who grew up in powerty in broken post communist economy, his pro communist stance is just pure cringe to me.

I totally get that. I'm guessing you're from an ex-USSR republic in Eastern Europe, or somewhere around there, right? My partner is Estonian, so I have a lot of understanding and sympathy with this.

I'm glad you have someone you enjoy and identify with.

I'm also wondering a little about how you feel about things like the cost of living crisis - do you feel impacted by that? Not sure where you're from or what you do for work etc. but have you experienced issues with public services getting worse, prices going up faster than wages, struggling to buy a home, things like that?

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

how long have you been watching him for?

Few years now. More or less since he shifted from WoW to reactions and political commentary

Which trends bother you the most?

The most? The twisted idea of political correctness. Every game made by well established corporation is bland. It has perfect representation of all races, all skin colours, all LGBT minorities, and every one of them feels the same. Bland, uninspired, boring and usually expensive. I want games like Witcher 3, with unique slavic style and mythos, Expedition 33 with unique french style, Black Myth Wukong with increadible chineese folklore and art - these games are actual, real diversity.

I’m guessing you’re from an ex-USSR republic in Eastern Europe, or somewhere around there, right?

Yeah, I'm from Poland

I’m also wondering a little about how you feel about things like the cost of living crisis - do you feel impacted by that?

I make above average, so I'm not that hard impacted, but the COVID inflation hit Poland much harder than US or rest of EU. Prices of everything increased 2x in the last 6 years. Wages followed, but not equally. Small business ran by my cousin got hit particularly hard on both sides. His costs of living increased considerably, while due to specifics of the business model, inflation shrunk their real cash flow.

State itself runs fine, housing is as expensive in terms of avg income as always while quality of services, like healthcare is the same as always.

Population growth is horribly nagative - people often say its due to financial reasons, but I don't believe this to be main factor - the poorest people have plenty of subsidies in forms of government mortgage subsidies, children subsidies ect. while rest is definitely making enough to support children if they wanted them. Poland is overall quite wealthy these days

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks again for your continued honest and good natured responses, I really appreciate it.

The most? The twisted idea of political correctness.

Does political correctness in video games bother you more than predatory monetisation practices (lootboxes, microtransactions, increasing prices relative to content, and so on)? How about live service games becoming unavailable after servers are shut down, i.e the issue addressed by the "Stop Killing Games" movement?

Witcher 3... Expedition 33... Black Myth Wukong

Those are some great games! I've not gotten around to Black Myth Wukong yet, but I preordered both of the other two. Been a Witcher fan for a while, even listened to the audiobooks and enjoyed them too.

Have you played Baldur's Gate 3? If so, what did you think of it?

Every game made by well established corporation is bland.

I totally agree with you on that - though I would identify the issue as being caused by video games more and more becoming products intended to maximize profit, rather than works of art. I believe the best games are those which are daring, and try something new, rather than aimed at mass-market appeal. Making a game appealing to as many people as leads to bland, derivative design driven by focus groups and design committees, rather than artists with a compelling vision.

Yeah, I’m from Poland

Nice! I have never visited Poland, but I'd love to go, I definitely will some day. I'm from Scotland.

I make above average, so I’m not that hard impacted

Can I ask what you do for work? Of course, don't dox yourself or anything, just a broad idea.

I'm really sorry to hear about your cousin. I hope things improve for him soon.

Population growth is horribly nagative - people often say its due to financial reasons, but I don’t believe this to be main factor

What do you think is causing it?

the poorest people have plenty of subsidies

Is this based on your personal interactions with them? I wonder to what extent you socialise with poorer people and hear from them directly about their experiences of this?

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

more than predatory monetisation practices

A good game with predatory monetization can still be enjoyable. Bad, boring uninspired game cant't. Aside of providing honest working product for a price, Stop killing games is important from cultural heritage point - these games have historical value, and should preserved. Some of important motion picture works like first season of Doctor Who, has been lost, and I don't want this to repeat for games

I’ve not gotten around to Black Myth Wukong yet,

Just know, that game assumes you're familiar with the wukong myth. I wasn't when I played, and many scenes lacked necessary context.

Have you played Baldur’s Gate 3?

I did. This is the best hardcore RPG since Fallout 2. When I first played it in early access I had very strong impression that this game really brings back the climate of original Baldurs Gate and tabletop experience. They also implemented LGBT themes in a way thats actually enjoyable for normal player.

though I would identify the issue as being caused by video games more and more becoming products intended to maximize profit, rather than works of art

I think its different phrasing of the same issue. Instead of pushing the boundaries, these companies produce stuff that won't cause any controversy, no risk taking, just one established scheme over and over again as long as revenue exeeds the costs.

I’m from Scotland.

Do you have insight of why UK left the EU? From our perspective, this was a horrible move. Poland was one of the biggest beneficiaries of common market and EU funds for infrastructure were a game changer for our economy.

Can I ask what you do for work?

I trade cryptocurrencies. Won't say any more due to privacy reasons.

I’m really sorry to hear about your cousin. I hope things improve for him soon.

Shit happens, if things go bad, I'll be there to support him.

Is this based on your personal interactions with them? I wonder to what extent you socialise with poorer people and hear from them directly about their experiences of this?

To be honest when I socialize, I don't care about financial status. Very rarely anyone talks about financial status here. People talk about jobs, family issues, politics, hobbies and interests, but noone ever talks about actual money. People are quite privacy oriented around that subject. Is Scotland different in that regard? When I talk about subsidies, I mean government programs made in order to allow young people to start families.

What do you think is causing it?

I honestly dont know. I have suspicion that's result of women doing careers all the way to their 30s spending most of their fertile part of life on working rather than building a family, but thats just my hypothesis

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A good game with predatory monetization can still be enjoyable. Bad, boring uninspired game cant’t.

Sure, but I'd say that predatory monetization does a lot more harm than a boring game does. A boring game is just "wow, this kinda sucks, guess I'll refund it" or maybe at worst you lose the purchase price of the game, but games with predatory monetization can cause serious financial harm to people who struggle to control their spending habits, it's a bit like gambling.

They also implemented LGBT themes in a way thats actually enjoyable for normal player.

Yeah, this was one of the reasons I asked about it - I think it's a demonstration of how fun and enjoyable games with lots of diversity can be, and I was curious how you felt about it. Glad to hear you enjoyed it!

I think its different phrasing of the same issue. Instead of pushing the boundaries, these companies produce stuff that won’t cause any controversy, no risk taking, just one established scheme over and over again as long as revenue exeeds the costs.

Yes, exactly! But my point is that I don't see the root of that problem as political correctness, the root of the problem is greed, and they're just making a game that tries to appeal (or panders to) modern gaming audiences, who are more and more diverse themselves by the day. They just do a really shitty job of it.

Do you have insight of why UK left the EU?

I sure do. Scotland is very pro-EU, and we had an independence referendum shortly before the Brexit vote (i.e. a vote to decide if Scotland should become independent of the UK or not) and one of the major points the anti-independence people kept making was that an independent Scotland would be kicked out of the EU and have to re-apply to join. It was probably a big reason why the independence referendum failed. Then we were dragged out of the EU a short time later by England anyways. It was a very frustrating time.

As to why the UK voted for Brexit, there are a few reasons, but the central one is basically the same old story - cost of living increasing out of pace with wages, public services under a lot of strain and failing, etc. These things were basically caused by the combined effects of businesses maximizing profits, and austerity implemented by the Conservative party in response to the 2008 global financial crisis, but to avoid criticism, the wealthy who owned the media directed blame towards immigrants rather than the truly responsible party - corporate greed, the ultra wealthy, and the government.

Another major component was the media, who constantly spammed pro-Brexit messaging. There was some other stuff mixed in there too - ideas of "sovereignty" - i.e. British chauvinism ("no damn frenchie is gonna tell me what to do! what if i want a flammable pillow!!"), and to some extent, racism also played a role, but in all honesty, if it wasn't for austerity, I think we would still be in the EU. I really hope we can rejoin soon.

I trade cryptocurrencies. Won’t say any more due to privacy reasons.

Thanks for sharing that - I'm a software engineer.

Shit happens, if things go bad, I’ll be there to support him.

Good for you <3

To be honest when I socialize, I don’t care about financial status.

Sure, I get that, but what I'm trying to get at, is that you might not be aware of the issues that affect people who aren't as well off as you are if you don't talk to them about it, right? Like, I can speak from experience that there are lots of government programs in my own country which exist to provide support to people, but in practice, actually accessing those programs is very, very difficult. I'm disabled, spent my years 18+ in a wheelchair, and applying for disability benefits was/is a complete nightmare. My first request for it, which provided like 300+ pages of evidence, doctors notes, etc. was rejected, and from what I hear basically everyone is rejected on the first try. After appealing, it was accepted - but then, a few years later, they just arbitrarily decided that I must have gotten better, so I had to re-apply and go through an appeals process which is still ongoing over a year later, and I'm just having to scrape by without that much needed money. I'm really lucky that I'm able to work part-time and that I have a supportive partner, because if I had lived alone and was unable to work, I'd be homeless by now. My story is hardly a rare exception, either - I'm a volunteer at a local advocacy & support group for disabled people, and I hear stories like this from almost everyone.

noone ever talks about actual money. People are quite privacy oriented around that subject. Is Scotland different in that regard?

It varies a lot - in my experience, older people tend to be a lot more private, but younger people are more open. It benefits people to talk about things like this, especially at work, so that they can learn that they are being underpaid or paid fairly for their job. There's nothing that motivates you to ask for a pay raise quite like hearing that someone in the office who does a worse job than you do gets paid more!

I honestly dont know. I have suspicion that’s result of women doing careers all the way to their 30s spending most of their fertile part of life on working rather than building a family, but thats just my hypothesis

I've heard this hypothesis before - I guess my first question is, if women have to spend their lives working, isn't that just a second-order effect of financial reasons? It used to be that a single working man could make enough money to afford to pay for a whole family, but that is no longer true. Women need to take on a career so that they can afford to live.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

predatory monetization can cause serious financial harm to people

I'm strong believer in personal responsibility. Lootboxes are purchased both by responsible and irresponsible people. I don't want to deprave one person of fun because other one can't manage their funds. That aside, I very rarely buy them

I don’t see the root of that problem as political correctness, the root of the problem is greed

I disagree here. Every money making endeavor has greed factor in it. Everyone wants to make money, there's nothing wrong with it. The issue is that this twisted version of political correctness is extremely selective, and doesn't even sell well! It isn't even greed! Look at Witcher 3. You have wonderful, deep quest about Bloody Baron that talks about domestic violence and abuse. You have quest about hunter who got cast away because he was gay. You have a hilarious quest with cross-dressing tailor that somehow ended up on Dandelions list of whores.

Now look at Dragon Age Veliguard: There's that trans character quest. It's laid out so horribly bluntly it feels obnoxious, meanwhile gameplay itself was just very mid, as were player numbers on steam Or Concord: Game had literally character in the colours of the trans flag. It flopped so hard that developer refunded all purchases Or Black Samurai as main character in Assasins Creed: Shadows... Why would you want a black main character in game about japan? Why??? Sales were so bad, that Ubisoft refused to answer how many licenses they sold when asked about it during investors call. Or Netflix Witcher show, where they inserted people of color not bothering to even crosscheck it with lore (They invented elven dark skinned boy who came with Ciri to Brokilon... which according to lore, implied child rape, because Dryades always used captured males for procreation, and consent wasn't a factor). At the same time they cut out the some important dialogue where elves were racist against humans... Or most hilariously, recent pick of black actor as Snape in Harry potter show. There are at least few lines in the book that they managed to make sound racist with this single manoeuvre.

If this was a greed issue, these companies would just go with whatever sells, but they don't.

Sure, I get that, but what I’m trying to get at, is that you might not be aware of the issues that affect people who aren’t as well off as you are if you don’t talk to them about it, right? Like, I can speak from experience that there are lots of government programs in my own country which exist to provide support to people, but in practice, actually accessing those programs is very, very difficult.

Your story about struggle with disability seems awfully familiar to what we have in poland. I've heard horror stories of people going through similar issues as you

they just arbitrarily decided that I must have gotten better

Also familiar. Don't know anyone with severe disability personally, but I know this sort of thing happens way more often than it should.

But the family subsidies are much easier to get. I remember few years ago my friend who's works in housing market sales told me, that once government introduced subsidies for mortgages, number of signed sale agreements went up dramatically.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Lmfao no, I think both are disgusting hypocrites. I've only ever heard from or learned about against my will. I don't hitch my opinions to streamers in any way. I don't remember you but I bet you were saying dumb shit

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don’t hitch my opinions to streamers in any way.

Neither do I - actually, kind of the opposite! Hasan represents a voice which spreads many of my my long-held beliefs to millions of people. I only started watching him pretty recently, after hearing a bunch of criticism and deciding to check him out myself and being pleasantly surprised, but I've been far-left since I was a teenager. I disagree with him on many issues, and I've even argued with him on his stream. I've seen him actually get closer to my beliefs over time, which is very nice to see.

I don’t remember you but I bet you were saying dumb shit

I was saying what I always say - that capitalism inevitably leads to fascism and that liberalism is a shield to capitalism.

How does capitalism inevitably lead to fascism?

Basically, the issue with capitalism is that the more wealth you have, the easier it is for you to make more money. And since money can be used to buy goods, services and influence, there is always a way to use money to gain more political and social power. With that political and social power, you can push society and the legal system in the direction you want to go. So you can use your wealth to gain power, and then you can use your power to change laws and society so that you can make even more wealth and power. It’s a positive feedback loop.

Obviously, though, if the billionaires and ruling class are accumulating more and more of our society’s wealth, that inevitably means that there’s less for everyone else to go around - therefore, working class people feel poorer and poorer. Meanwhile, the economy is going absolutely great for rich people, so inflation continues to go up - everything gets more expensive, but wages don’t increase. The wealthy just keep more and more of the wealth for themselves. To accumulate more and more wealth, they change the laws so that they can avoid paying taxes, so public services collapse. Politicians are lobbied to ensure that public funds are diverted away from where it is most needed - housing, healthcare, transportation, infrastructure - and instead into industries where their class interests most benefit from it, such as weapons manufacturing and extractive industries such as fossil fuels and mining.

The working class are bound to notice that their lives are getting shittier and shittier, and if that situation is left unchecked, the working class would realize that the ruling class are fucking them over, rise up, and overthrow their rulers. Obviously, the ruling class need to do something about this, but there’s no solution that the ruling class can offer. They’re causing all of the problems, to fix them they’d have to give up some of their wealth and power - and that’s not something they’re going to do. So they need to find someone else to blame the problems we have in society on. Unfortunately, though, no matter who they blame the problems on, and no matter what they do to “fix” it, the issue will continue to persist, because the material conditions underlying the issues are, very intentionally, never addressed.

So, the conundrum returns: The ruling class said that minority A caused all of the problems, minority A is persecuted and oppressed, but society doesn’t actually get any better. Either the problem wasn’t minority A, or minority A just hasn’t been oppressed enough yet. So the ruling class can either escalate the oppression, or they can shift the focus to another minority group. The division continues to escalate in terms of how vitriolic and extreme it is, and it also continues to divide the working class into smaller and smaller groups.

To get the working class to buy into this hateful message, they need to take advantage of our worst instincts, and one of those instincts is the in-group bias. The majority are manipulated into being suspicious, then intolerant, then hateful, then violent, then genocidal, towards whatever the targeted minority of the day is. Anything that can be used to divide the working class - sexuality, nationality, immigration status, ethnicity, religion, sex, gender identity, age, all of these will be used as wedges to keep the working class split apart and not working together, because they know that if the working class actually unite against them, they are completely and truly fucked.

That’s exactly how fascism manifests. It’s because it’s possible for people to accumulate power through wealth. This is why capitalism must be abolished. If we do not abolish capitalism, fascism will always return. It’s just a matter of time.

But can't capitalism can be reformed?

While, of course, some laws to reform capitalism can be passed, and would definitely alleviate the worst harm caused, over the long term, capitalism cannot be reformed.

Any attempts to reform, democratize or socialize capitalism may yield short term improvements to quality of life of the working class, but if capitalism is not abolished, it will always reassert itself, and capitalism inevitably leads towards fascism.

The New Deal prevented the US from sliding into fascism in the 20th century, so that’s ultimately a good thing, but it did not go far enough, and that’s why we have the resurgence of fascism in the 21st century America.

But the Soviet Union was really oppressive!

Yeah, the soviet union had a lot of problems, Stalin was a psycho. Let's not do that, but we can do socialism using a bottom-up, direct democratic, consensus based decision making approach, rather than a top-down, centralized state. We can learn from the mistakes of the past.

I'd encourage you to check out an anarchist FAQ to learn more - If you haven't heard much about anarchism before, you probably have some misconceptions about it, so I encourage you to watch the Q&Anarchy video series by Thought Slime or have a look through an Anarchist FAQ, because it's almost definitely nothing like what you think.

I personally believe that it's the most coherent philosophy which adequately explains and addresses all of the problems which plague our society, and which holds the most promise for a path out of the inevitable cycle of the continuous rise and fall of fascism that capitalism makes inevitable.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I don't remember, I just remember your username

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Haha, sorry you feel that way! I'm just doing everything I can to fight for the working class, and working class solidarity is important to me. Much love, solidarity forever!

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Keep doing it in the literal shitpost community of lemmy where things matter and people care, you're a hero.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social -1 points 5 days ago

Will do! Thanks <3