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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Taiwan does not view itself as a soverign nation, but for most practical purposes it is one.

Being a sovereign nation is when you don't have a seat in the UN and most sovereign nations refuse to recognize you as an independent nation.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Being a sovereign nation is when you don't have a seat in the UN and most sovereign nations refuse to recognize you as an independent nation.

I really don't think this is the view people on the left should hold. Someone could say the same thing about many nations or groups that don't have a seat in the UN and aren't recognised but are still supported by communists and anarchists.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

What is a "sovereign nation"?

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sovereignty as a concept in international relations stems from the Treaty of Westphalia, in that each nation has an absolute say within its own borders and that said borders are inviolable.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

In which case Ukraine was not sovereign after it was overthrown by America's Nazi coup.

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