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Ditch SUV's (infosec.pub)
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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I recently inherited an older Toyota Sienna and it's made me realize the current crop of 3 row SUVs and gigantic trucks is mostly sold to people who would absolutely love a minivan but just don't know it.

  • I've got more cargo space than any truck I pass on the road made in this century
  • I can fit my entire family plus drag along multiple friends and still have space for everyone's bags
  • I can stand and walk through the interior if desired, even climbing to the far back from the front seat
  • the sliding doors mean you can get in and out of the vehicle from any parking spot without a door in the way
  • it's got a turn radius so short that I can do a full U-turn without reversing on any road or parking lot
  • the high seat+low nose means I can nussle up within inches of a vehicle in front of me and still see the bumper
  • the engine is has enough power to be comparable to some small locomotives.

I would never have bought a minivan on account of the gas milage (~20mpg just ain't great, and filling up the 25 gallon tank every week hurts the pocket book way more than my crossover that I got before I knew snow tires were a thing) but holy crap having this much space for people/stuff is incredible and I thoroughly enjoy playing bus/truck with it for all of my friends and family. For anyone who's considered a truck/3-row SUV to be a requirement, they need to do themselves a favor and try out a minivan

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trouble is, trucks are considered cool. Vans aren’t.

my work have a Hilux, it’s horrible to drive, it’s like being on a boat.

[–] qqq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The commercials I see for Ram trucks make me cringe so hard I want to escape my skin. The fact that that marketing strategy must work is absolutely bananas to me.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you got a link to the one you’re talking about?

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's exactly why I just don't understand how these trucks are getting so fucking popular in Europe including in Germany! There's been a culture for many decades of the multifunction vans, Volkswagen multivan but also mercedes Sprinter, that one fiat model etc. They are incredibly versatile yet manageable vehicles. You need a bed to go camping : sure. Need to move a couch: no problem. Need to go somewhere with up to 7 people: gotcha! Park in tight spot in underground garage: mostly no issue... Compare with the stupid RAM etc trucks any of those vans on anything except "coolness" and the vans will always come out on top! They need an extra trailer to move a bicycle for gods sake. RAM and similar are just an enormous waste of space and fuel by comparison. These damn trucks need to be forbidden in EU asap. Minimum bonnet height/angle/visibility would be a good way to get there.