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station wagon superiority
i need an electric station wagon goshdarnit!!
Back before any good electric vehicles I drove a station wagon and I was following all the EV news in the hope of converting it to electric (the V6 ecotech was thirsty).
There was an Australian consortium of car industry companies proposing that the Australian car industry could continue, specialising in electric muscle cars, and their demo was the sedan version of the same model as mine
That came to nothing
Then there was the US company AC Propulsion which was producing kits for converting a car to electric, but the lead acid batteries of then would prevent the car carrying a load
That got funded by Musk and became Tesla. Tesla has never made a wagon
I think Chinese Volvo sells a wagon, but I don't really need one anymore
I really want a large electric station vagon, or even better an electric camper with decent range.
Hopefully its just a few years away.
Convertibles and coupes are also a dying breed.
this is the only new car I would consider buying. Of course, if they did offer it in my market, it would be full of touch screens and spyware, so I still wouldn't buy it
tbh this is why i am still following that "Slate" EV Truck
A truly minimalist vehicle that not only doesn't have a touch screen, it also doesn't have a stereo system, a cellular data uplink, gps navigation, or even power windows (you can technically get power windows if you want to opt for them but the others are Bring Your Own Tech)
of course, i'm not putting any money down until the day i can actually get in and drive one off the lot MYSELF... been too burned by vaporware products -_-
this thing though, at the very least, feels like it might still be LIKELY because it's a minimum viable product single purpose tool:
It is a MACHINE
that turns ELECTRICITY
into GOIN' SOMEWHERE
And That's It.
NO MORE, NO LESS!
I've been tempted by a FordRanger/MazdaB2000 over the years. still am
I have a wagon. It's rusted to shit. I should have taken better care of it, but I didn't realize how difficult it would be to replace when I bought it nearly 10 years ago. I just bought a slightly smaller wagon, with a little less towing and hauling capacity (both power and space and capability). a little pickup would be a good way for me to still be able to tow some slightly heavier loads safely, and have some of the "this is a just work vehicle" capability. but until then, we'll see how the smaller wagon handles the utility trailer. mostly just worried about braking, I'll have to lighten the max load a bit. this new car is a 2012 and basically rust free on the frame. I'm hoping to make it last until cars are inoffensive again. or at least far less offensive
Here in Australia there's the new Deepal E07 which is a weird and interesting concept. Looks like a sedan / truck / station wagon all in one.
It doesn't look like a wagon. There is no d pillar
I love mt Subaru Levorg (aside from its fuel consumption), I wish they made a new version with an electric drivetrain, instead they made the fuckin Solterra
I wish we got those in the US. I would trade my Outback for one in a heartbeat.
A 2000 outback as an ev would be amazing. I love the old Outbacks.
The Outback is cool too
I do love mine with the H6
VW ID7 was advertised as the new Passat stationwagen.
It ended up just being a standard sedan with more tacky LEDs on the outside starting at like € 70k
Yes! Me too. I think the only option at the moment is the MG5 here in Europe.
There’s also the Opel/Vauxhall Astra electric.
Taycan Cross Turismo or Sport Turismo is incredible. It had better be for its sticker price tho. But they're probably great on the used market.
In the interim, the Toyota Corolla Touring Sports Hybrid is an excellent alternative. Versatile, spacious, fuel efficient, reliable, and dare I say quite attractive as well. The Toyota Prius V / α also deserves a shout out
There’s also the Opel Astra electric.