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not surprised:
Multiple people calling you dude/man/guy I bet they dont tell people they had sex with a dude/guy last night unless they are gay.
the user mewtwo is a reactionary asshole who states that anyone who disagrees with them is not really trans/queer/POC denying their identity because they disagree
the user assuming everyone is male on the internet is a clear-cut case of transphobia and simialr to mewtwo gatekeeping identity based on if you are the right kind of political.
Don't worry I'm sure they will get a stern talking to by Ada, real great community she is developing over there.
Ada's going to be shocked when she finds out the user I told her was being transphobic is a transphobe. How could she have known, why didn't anyone tell her!? /s
lmfao i encountered a lib who said "dude" is gender neutral somehow. to make matters worse said lib was an enby 🙄🙄🙄
also i pretty much just switched to using “hey y’all” unless i’m specifically greeting a collective of guys/girls/enbies, since “hey guys” still comes off as a bit weird to me. like, i’m not a
---wtfSouth Park brained "nonpolitical" "centrist" chuds also like to say "dude" and piously claim that it isn't gendered.
But I've heard (non-chud) people say "dude" to refer to the person they're talking to in a gender neutral way. As an interjection, mostly.
I don't have any clips to share but I'm positive that Anne from Amphibia calls all her friends "dude"
I agree, there's a lot of people out there that sincerely use dude and guy neutrally. It doesn't come off very well in text but it's cool in person, the vibes are chill. Though I completely understand why a lot of people don't like it.
And this is a tangent, but my understanding of the word "man" is that it originally meant "person" while the words for adult male and adult female were "were" and "wif" respectively. Then "man" started being used in place of "were", which fell out of use. And for some reason "wif" became "wifman" and eventually "woman".
This boat has long since sailed but I think it's interesting that "man" used to be a gender neutralish word (boys were still the implied default I think).
"Hey everybody," has been my default for a while now. I don't understand what's so hard about making that the norm for some people.
If I want to be a bombastic show-off on stage (which I like to do sometimes!), I'll open with, "Welcome, one and all, to... THE THINGY!"
This isn't rocket surgery. Even an old asshole like me can be inclusive with next to zero effort.
I like "Howdy, folks 🤠"
"Hey y'all" for similar cowboy effect
Alternatively:
Surely the precise meaning of words like dude, guys etc. is dialect and audience dependant? Use of English can very considerably just across the US and more so internationally.