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[–] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If we're talking in absolutes, state can be overthrown without guns : it's a social construct, it can be unmade by social means.

Now, it's far far easier with violence, and violence is easier with guns, so practically and realistically you're probably right. But eh, i like nitpicking.

[–] Alberat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

you can walk through walls if by chance your electrons line up

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 5 points 21 hours ago

But the state is the monopolist on violence… Otherwise you have a social group that has no means to enforce it's will on others…
Thus it could be ignored entirely as a “construct.”

Since both Australian and USians practically and realistically praxis violence on it's population, there is only one course of action to counter a gun violent state…

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

it also entirely depends on which state we're talking about.
The norwegian state can absolutely be overthrown if the "overthrow the state" party gets 90% of the votes with 100% voter turnout, whereas the american government might well just nuke seattle if they see any third party getting more than 3% of votes..