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.ml,grad,hexbear,dbzer0, andquokk.auAnd you'll end up with like 3 federated users left which is basically my /all feed now π
Seriously, just block them. Itβs not a punishment, itβs a curation tool; youβre allowed to block people who havenβt done anything wrong just because you donβt want to see their content. If you donβt like womenβs sports, block me! Itβs fine β you should have the social media experience you want, and you can use the block button to get it.
Well fucking said!π
We really need to grow beyond the idea that blocking is "censorship". That only (arguably) applies to large centralized platforms. The fediverse allows all voices to speak but it doesn't force everyone else to listen.
The fediverse gives us huge individual and collective power and we can use it to grow beyond the constraints of the old platforms.
What's your issue with those instances, he asked quizzically.
No idea about quokk, but for db0: from what I read here, the blocking of the tankie triad seems too be pretty effective, so in order to be able to still bother the rest of us, some were looking for alternative servers. And Db0 had the problem of being very open, so they went there. People then complained that more and more db0 users are tankies that can't discuss faithfully.
Oof. One of my community's moderators and an FV buddy is also an admin on db0. Absolutely no trace of tankie-ness detected there, as yet.
So far I just haven't needed to block any particular instance. I just have zero participation with .ML and Hexbear /c's, and that seems to work just fine. I don't see any trace of them in my curated feed. I also want to make sure that if their users happen to post / comment in my community project (and they have in the past), I want to be sure I can see them doing that.
Piefed.social is defederated with Hexbear and lemmygrad, so you aren't exposed to their content or users. Your instance is federated with .ml though.
Ah whoops, I think I remember that now. Thank you.
I also haven't experienced it myself, so I should have added that I don't support that view due to my own lack of evidence.
I think alot of users also moved to dbzer0 due to a certain Adobe software community moving there from reddit so I would assume its either a loud minority or the instance was already a dumpsterfire before it grew.Β
Nonetheless, if its not properly moderated or if the entire purpose and ruling of it creates the issues then it should just be defederated IMO.Β
My coffee hasn't kicked in yet, so this is as diplomatic as I can phrase it under current conditions:
Both are entrenched identity politics instances ("aNaRchISM!") and a good chunk of the calls for violence around here are from users there. You'll be over here trying to have a rational discussion, and someone from there comes in like the world's dumbest parrot who can only say "Bawk! Guillotines! Bawk! Luigi".
dbzer0was aight when it was just the piracy instance, but they've shifted more to far left politics and re-federated with Hexbear, so they're basically Hexbear-lite these days. Quokk turns a complete blind eye (or tacitly endorses) several power users who do nothing but call for violence, doxx, and/or do nothing but spread anarchist propaganda.Might as well add AN to that. We absolutely adore a good call to violence against fascists and zionists. Remember kids, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi, the US is a terrorist state, and Israel has no right to exist.
Thanks for answering!
I don't have much problem with "anarchists," altho the term can mean a lot of things, and some of the typical core ideas are pie-in-the-sky to me. I certainly don't think of tankies as leftist, either, so it's troublesome that anyone would want to align with Hexbear.
Regardless, bad actors and toxic users will always get the gas face* from me. I'll keep my eye on that stuff, thank you!
* semi-obscure rap phrase from ~1990 I suppose, i.e. a jaundiced look
they are full of hostile angry people living in alternative version of reality
We are not angry or hostile, we just want to have some freedom and equality in the world.
yeah and you see no issue with murdering people to get it done.
Some people only make the world better by leaving it. We just think we should help them along.
There are people willing to kill you and everyone you love, cause any amount of suffering, and give zero thought for it, just so they can get more power. I don't mind if those people get deleted
You're talking about yourself. You are one of those people.
Anarchists believe no one should have power over others
then you shouldn't believe in violence. violence is power.
you violate your own beliefs.
Yeah it's like the famous paradox of tolerance, you must not tolerate intolerance
Same way you gotta defend your freedoms from those trying to take them away from you, even if in doing so you end up violating theirs.
No, it's that you're a thug who thinks they are a hero.
And like all thugs, you hide behind theoretical bullshit to justify your horrible actions and beliefs as for the 'greater good'.
And if you found yourself on the receiving end of the violence you propose, I don't think you'd be so eager about it.
That's called self defense. And if you weren't some hand-wringing liberal lickspittle, maybe you would have the backbone to stand up against fascists as well.
But you don't, so you'll die a nobody, just another in the long line of bootlicking centrists who followed orders and marched themselves into the noose the fascists eventually put around your neck. And as you're about to die, your last thought will be a plaintive cry for a leftist is to come and save you.
Itβs called self defense
We are at the receiving end of the violence right now
Block and report. We're all in this together!
Identity politics derails everything into a toxic soup.
It sucks that the founders of it thought it would bring 'justice' to the world or something, and it just made everything so much worse.
One of the reasons I left my PhD in 2010 was because I could see the tide of ID pol alreadying ruining academia... I never thought it would become mainstream though and that everyone would start thinking that way. Thanks tumblr!