cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/58189605
What it looks like:
Here's an example of such a post: https://sh.itjust.works/post/58082125
They uploaded an image and then included a URL as the body/text.
On Lemmy, it looks like an image post, with a small expando to the right of the title that you can click to show the body:
Why you should stop doing it:
- It makes high-quality posts look the same as low-quality ones.
I automatically downvote most image/meme submissions and posts with bad/non-descriptive titles for quality control. Linking directly to a source is how you make a high-quality submission. You can include screenshots or quotes in the body of the post.
I could start clicking the expando next to the title to check if a source was provided, but there's going to be a user option to block image posts in the next lemmy update (v0.20), so that format is not good since lots of people will start to automatically block them.
You can put images in the body of the posts.
Why should anyone care?
Low-quality, easy-to-digest content will dominate and drown out everything else if no one does anything to limit it. It degrades the internet and our brains.
A blog that elaborates:
The Cargo Cult of The Ennui Engine https://medium.com/@max.p.schlienger/the-cargo-cult-of-the-ennui-engine-890c541cebcb
This reads more as preference to me than a pressing need for everyone to submit posts the exact same way. If it’s truly an issue for some communities they can implement link-only post rules, no image posts.
It reflects very poorly on the user base that this comment is the most upvoted one. It ignores the history of low-quality meme content and nearly all the arguments in the OP.
Not really, that's just another normal reply as you shared your point of view. It may not be the reply you wanted to read but that's a valid point of view.
In your example, it's not a meme. For me, it's screenshot of a newpaper article. There are pro and cons:
As for myself, i prefer text over pic/video because:
But i also like when there is a picture along text. The second example is a screenshot of a new browser for the fediverse. It showcases the browser ui.
This comment does not address any of the core arguments and thus seems largely unrelated/irrelevant.
I replied to the examples you chose in your arguments...
No, i disagree, text and picture can showcase different kind of information that text are able to explain.
futhernore I explained that the screenshoot showcased a browser UI and the another one maybe a trick to escape copyrighted contend detection. So...for me it doesn't lower their qualities.
That's not necessary true. It depends on the pics, and the text. There are some badly written text that could achieve the same result. It depends on lot factors.
That's bad English, and thus difficult to decipher, so I have to assume what you're trying to say.
The OP is referring to memes and other screenshots of text (often social media posts). Nearly all of these are low-quality content. The "solution" offered by the Lemmy devs to block that stuff is blocking image submissions. I noted in other comments that it's a flawed solution, but it's the option we have. Of course it's correct that text submissions can be poor quality too, but overwhelmingly, it's images that are the problem.
Images (and text) were included in the body of the post. It didn't need to be submitted as an image post. I noted the future consequences of continuing to do that.
Yes, there are instances where images are useful. I agreed that blocking all images is not a perfect solution, but I haven't seen anyone present a better one.
This seems to display a lack of understanding of what the OP discussed. Did you read the link at the end that expounds?
There's a long history of low-quality meme content ruining reddit subs. It's become the norm on reddit; turning it from it's former higher-quality content to just another low-quality facebook-like site. And it's extremely common on Lemmy too.
I don’t think you have the only, objective assessment of what a quality post is 🤷♂️
I didn’t address the arguments in the OP because they boil down to ‘this is my preference and you should do it because it’s my preference.’
If a bunch of lemmy users start blocking image posts (frankly a confusing decision on a platform that is image heavy, but whatever) and don’t see my posts, that’s their problem.
I never said I did. That's a strawman.
Then it’s a little silly to keep harping on about how this will make sure there are more ‘quality posts’ if you don’t even define what that is or acknowledge that other people have different assessments, isn’t it?
You're consistently making nonsensical or erroneous comments, so I think the issue is on your end.
Nobody else seemed to have trouble with it. What part didn’t make sense to you?
Hello,
Can you edit your post and remove this part "unintelligent reponse" ? That's a bit rude.
Thank you :)
I couldn't think of a way to rephrase it so I asked a chatbot and they couldn't come up with a valid alternative either.
Are you saying that no one participating on this sub is capable of making unintelligent remarks? Or that people can make as many unintelligent remarks as they like and no one is ever allowed to point it out?
Anyway, I tried really hard and rephrased it.
Well, the problem is that you attack people with this sentence and they told you a valid point that you may not agree.
i think you should take it slow, reread them. You may not agree with us, but you shouldn't attack them by : "unitelligent, low.."
Take a point in our argumentation for example :
They didn't. That's the primary reason I criticized them. They didn't address a single point in the OP. If someone lays out a bunch of arguments for something, and someone comes along and posts a simplistic dismissal without addressing any of the arguments, that's unintelligent.
This seems completely nonsensical, and like it was written by someone illiterate, or at best by someone who speaks English very poorly. I looked to see if you were pharaphrasing something in another comment, I only see one thing similar, which I'll reply to.
Not everyone are fluent to english but we doe our best. We come from various background. I don't write well in english, i do lot typos and correct them over time.
So you shouldn't judge us.
Let's imagine you go to !forumlibre@jlai.lu. you want to share your amazing experience in the french city Strasbourg and write a beautiful post in french.
It is so badly written that there is this guy that tell you :
And that's your behaviour.
I was paraphrasing the whole posts & comments you madd because you didn't developp your arguments and dismissed them all. I will sum up how you answer to people :
Do you think you know better than us ?
Imo, you should stop and developp your thoughts. Your new reply is better because you tell me what i didn't understand.
"Moderators should moderate their communities for quality" is a valid solution to the problem you outlined, and a valid line of discussion even if you disagree.
I consider instance level and user level image tools as secondary to good community moderation, for things that the mods miss, and I only follow communities that seem well run.
sounds like you’re just mad. try touching grass