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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

33,000 would be the absolutely bare minimum.

Its kind of notoriously difficult to ... poll, or count, people... who do not have permanent addresses or known working phone numbers.

They're nomadic, essentially.

Also: No one really fucking cares to attempt that job properly.

Source is me, I used to be the data analyst guy at a major nonprof that serves the homeless.

(I've also, perhaps ironically, been homeless for a few years, so I kind of have the theoretical as well applied knowledge here)

In Trump's term so far, roughly 80% of the funding going toward assisting the homeless has been cut.

Section 8 / SNAP now have work requirements, so functionally that means most people living in Section 8 housing will now either have to find a private sector job in the worst economy in my life time, or, basically get gangpressed into involuntary labor of some kind, essentially a kind of 'community service +' type system.

A not insignificant portion of people in Section 8, are people trying to qualify for Disability, but either didn't or it hasn't been processed fully yet, so they're living off of SSI + SNAP, as opposed to SSDI... SSI + SNAP is generally low enough income that you qualify for Section 8, SSDI is, perhaps ironically, often over the income threshold limits to be considered for Section 8.

What the Trump admin is doing, is they're literally building concentration camps.

https://www.medboundtimes.com/medbound-blog/trump-overhauls-housing-first-policy-with-mandatory-treatment-camps

President Donald Trump is vowing a new approach to getting homeless people off the streets by forcibly moving those living outside into large camps while mandating mental health and addiction treatment — an aggressive departure from the nation’s leading homelessness policy, which for decades has prioritized housing as the most effective way to combat the crisis.

You know, like he has consistently said that he would:

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2022/07/trump-wants-concentration-camps-and-presidential-control-domestic-troops/375057/

(2022)

Trump also said authorities should round up America’s homeless population—roughly half a million people—and incarcerate them in camps built on cheap land far from major U.S. cities. This, he argued, would hide an American embarrassment from visiting foreign leaders and motivate the homeless to stop being homeless.

(Again, that 'roughly half a million' figure is a dramatic undercount, more like multiply by 4 or 5)

Oh also, being homeless is just a crime now, in case you missed that:

Homelessness crackdowns have exploded since the U.S. Supreme Court made it easier for elected officials and law enforcement agencies to fine and arrest people for living outside. Since June, roughly 150 laws imposing fines or jail time have been passed, with about 45 in California alone, said Jesse Rabinowitz, campaign and communications director for the National Homelessness Law Center.

Aka The Grants Pass Decision, which functionally says that if you are homeless, you are a criminal, and thus under the 13th Amendment, may be legally enslaved.

(That's how all the private prison labor force shit works, the carve out for criminals in the 13th Amdnt.)

So if you wanna try living in your car, good luck, if you fuck up at parking, or your car dies, off to the concentration camp for you.

God help you if you don't have a current and valid ID on you.

America is a scam that wants you to die.

[–] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The “fun” thing about the post-military is they are pretty good about keeping stats because they ask you nearly every time you interact with them. Most veterans, especially those at risk, do interact with the VA periodically.

Granted, it does require interacting with them.

But if you do, they relentlessly ask obnoxiously invasive questions. To the point that you don't want to interact with them unless you have to.

Their “new” thing, at least in my area, is making you confirm your contact information every single fucking time you talk to them. Even in front of a group of people you don't know. No fucks given. Have a VA identification card? Too bad, confirm your full name, address, and telephone. Don't want to do that for some reason? You don't get to see a doctor, even though you waited months for the appointment. (What happened when I tried to decline confirming in a busy waiting room because it was my fourth damn time doing so that month alone)

And then at least once a year they pester you with questions about wanting to commit suicide (not that it matters, I had to wait 6 fucking months after telling them I was suicidal to get -screened- for care.. good thing it passed or I’d be a statistic) how much you drink (too much because you wont provide proper mental health..????) and whether you feel at risk of homelessness, not having enough food, etc.