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I don't get why the article keeps saying the military frigate was "unarmed"?
It was on a training mission and was heading home. With no weapons on board. We are cowards.
This entire war is illegal, but articles like this just grind my gears.
Attacking a war ship on a training run is like destroying airplanes on the ground, or bombing infantry barracks where soldiers are sleeping. It isn't a war crime, or even out of the ordinary in a war.
And calling the sub crew cowards doesn't even make sense.
The frigate would have been just as helpless against the sub if it had been carrying its usual armament.
I guess I'm just allergic to dishonest propaganda, no matter from which side.
Also, fuck Trump, his administration, and every single US service member going along with this. I hope they get humiliated and are forced to pull out with their tails between their legs before they "accidentally" kill more school children, or deliberately destroy Iran's civilian infrastructure (an actual war crime).
an attack on an unarmed vessel during a ceremonial voyage 2000 miles from the illegal war.... yeah no. Just another war crime to add to the pile.
There's plenty of that to be found on Lemmy tho
Yes, and the reactions to this post make me seriously consider leaving this place.
For me it's the exact opposite. I wouldn't know where else to observe these people, if not here?
And if it gets too frustrating I just close the app
Yeah, lemmy is a bit of a cespool.
Wow you're soft.
You are in serious need of education. This was an international naval exercise, where participants show up unarmed to not endanger any other participants and as a show of good will. This is basically a diplomatic gesture. Attacking such a ship is among the most cowardly things any military can do. So exactly what you would expect from the cowards of Magastan.
Russia's invasion of Ukraine started as a military exercise. Just because a military unit is on an "exercise", it does not mean it is not combat capable, or a valid military target.
Try a mirror.
Let's put aside the stupidity of the idea that they should have allowed it to re-arm first and risk US lives for no reason.
The training mission had a live fire component, so the ship was definitely armed during a portion of the excersise. Unless they ran out of ammo or something weird happened, it was armed.
From the actual article. Which you could have read. It's not even paywalled, you just didn't want to take the time.
And yet the article cites no source for this and as far as I can tell, there is no official source excluding Iran. Only the same BS that ammo is usually not carried during excersises which obviously does not apply to live-fire excersises, which Milan 2026 was.
So unless you are suggesting we should be trusting what Iran says, I revert back to there is a good chance it had some ammo.
More importantly, what does it matter? The US military wouldn't have known for sure whether the ship had ammo or not and no reason to check. Even if it did not have ammo at the time, it would just re-arm in Iran. It was a legitimate target regardless, just like a bomber returning home after dropping bombs is a legitimate target, even if it does not carry bombs at that time. If you let it go, it will pick up more bombs and bomb you again.
PS: No idea why people feel the need to make shit up to paint the US in a bad picture. You want evidence of a US warcrime?
There it is. Just making that statement is a violation of the Geneva conventions. This is because it discourages surrendering, by suggesting surrenders will not be accepted/treated well, which in turn results in more deaths than necessary.
Oh of course, the manly thing to do would be to wait for it get back to port get munitions and then shoot it