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Father and son incinerated after ‘self-driving’ Tesla suddenly slammed into tree (www.independent.co.uk)
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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 133 points 3 days ago (8 children)
  1. How come Elon hasn’t been sued into bankruptcy over these deaths?
  2. How is FSD not outright criminal fraud?
  3. How is not having accessible door handles in a fire allowed, legal, and not the source of massive lawsuits?
  4. How is FSD allowed when it’s objectively one of the least safe driving modes around?

Fuck, this is like a fractal of liability that somehow they never get in trouble for. Everywhere you look it gets worse.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago
  1. They haven't been found to be at fault for enough crashes to cost more than their profits
  2. It seems to work well for most people
  3. They have mechanical door releases, they are detailed in the owner's manual
  4. It seems to have fewer fatal accidents than human drivers, try not to mistake highly reported collisions for high rate collisions
[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 75 points 3 days ago
  1. He’s disgustingly rich.
  2. He’s disgustingly rich.
  3. He’s disgustingly rich.
  4. He’s disgustingly rich.

They have been sued, but it doesn’t matter, because that’s just the cost of doing business. (If the punishment for a crime is a fine, it’s only illegal for poor people to do it.)

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 27 points 3 days ago

Well you see, being the world's richest person enables him to do whatever he wants without repercussion. And what's a poorer person going to do, go bankrupt and homeless fighting his lawyers?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

How come Elon hasn’t been sued into bankruptcy over these deaths?

Class Action Lawsuits: A major class-action lawsuit was certified in August 2025 by a California judge, representing Tesla owners who claim they were misled by marketing regarding the autonomous capabilities of FSD, with plaintiffs seeking refunds for purchased software.

Active Crash Litigation: Litigation is ongoing in at least eight cases involving the use of Tesla Autopilot/FSD during a fatal or serious crash, according to reports as of March 2024. This includes lawsuits alleging the system fails to detect objects, such as a case in Washington state involving a motorcyclist.

$243 Million Damages Verdict: In February 2026, a federal court upheld a verdict ordering Tesla to pay $243 million in damages regarding a fatal 2025 crash involving Autopilot, marking a significant legal loss for the company.

NHTSA Probes & Recalls: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is investigating over 2.9 million Tesla vehicles regarding FSD’s ability to follow traffic laws (including running red lights). In early 2026, this shifted to a "recall query" to verify the effectiveness of a previous software update aimed at fixing the issues.

Criminal Investigation: Reports in 2024 indicated that Tesla is under federal criminal investigation over claims that the company misled consumers and investors about its autonomous driving features.

Tesla would have been shut down if idiots didn't elect a corrupt President literally selling Teslas on the White House Lawn.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also:

  1. How is it that the company that makes this shit has a price-to-earnings ratio of 326 and a market cap of $1.3 trillion. Meanwhile Toyota makes good dependable cars and has a P/E ratio of 11.41 and a market cap of $266 billion, even though Toyota sells 10x as many cars.
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Because STONKS.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tesla has been sued. But their brilliant legal defense is that full self driving needs the driver's full attention to take over. These accidents are human error Not Tesla

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 21 points 3 days ago

In this accident I'm sure Autopilot disengaged half a second before the crash, that somehow proves it wasn't Autopilot's fault.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 8 points 3 days ago

You seem to get the point of laws backwards.