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[–] ductTapedWindow@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Desert Storm, but outside of that they've all been unsuccessful.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Did we really win? We went in there and killed a bunch of people but even today the country hates us. The truth is the US hasn't won a war since WWII. In order to really win you have to make peace with the population after you take over. The US doesn't do that anymore. We just kill and create more enemies.

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

If the goal of Desert Storm was to get Iraq to withdraw out of Kuwait, then it could be considered a success. There was no intent to make friends with the Iraqi people or remove Saddam from power. That was the second Bush's mess.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, that was the objective of Desert Storm: to force Iraq back to within its own borders.

Bush Jr thought that was too narrow a goal and when he found a convenient though irrational excuse in 9/11, killed half a million Iraqi civilians in a pointless bloodbath. By comparison, the homicidal maniac Saddam and his regime killed a few thousand Iraqi civilians during his entire time in power (not counting the war of aggression against Iran, which led to about half a million casualties on each side).

Its been pointed out multiple times over the years that they stopped the conflict at a hundred hours for a media headlines. They didn't finish the job so they didn't achieve any real victory. So baby bush used afghanistan as a excuse to go in to disrupt the entire region again so oil companies could make more money in iraq to keep saddam hussein from moving to the euro. Its never as cut and dried as stated objectives. Its always about who makes the money. Its been that way since korea and Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us.

Put simply the US isn't interested in winning wars so they haven't since WWII. They are interested in putting a lot of money in to as few pockets as they can. Stated objectives are a joke when the truth is its always about who makes the money. There is no way you are going to convince me otherwise. The US doesn't win wars anymore. We go in and murder people. Creating more enemies so some fat rich degenerates whose only skill is a utter lack of decency make a lot of money off of the death and destruction.

The US hasn't won a war since WWII.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the ones making the wars would consider it a win if they make a lot of money.

In almost every war, the US extracted a lot of money/resources, not to mention the killings made by military industries

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Winning a war means a enemy is no longer a enemy. Its that simple.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Disagree, pattern of history shows that wars can end with both enemies still intact and both claiming victory depending on how they each define victory, both privately and publicly.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's all very idealistic, but in real life, containment is often a legitimate war aim. And if you're invaded, ending the invasion is often victory. Wars are not fought to make people stop being your enemy, and there are only a few rare cases of post-war reconstruction where that has been achieved.

So we are back at the US hasn't won a war since WWII.