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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait, wat? I get Tesla but whole industry?

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The average price of a new car is 50k.

The US car industry makes almost no actual cars since sedans and wagons don’t make much money per vehicle.

The whole fucking industry deserves to go out of business, and the laws that incentivized building trucks needs to go with it.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's a very US-centric view of car industry

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have a European car rant too, I did live in Germany for 20 years

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 3 points 3 days ago

II absolutely love that multilingual in the language of rant. You deserve more ups than I can give.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Why the fuck is the are cars like the golf, 206 etc the size of a Passat from 20ish years ago.

Why is BMW building a fat front wheel drive called the 2 series.

Why can’t VAG produce anything quality it doesn’t matter if it’s a Skoda or an Audi they’ve all tuned into low quality shit.

Why are reasonable midsized cars in Europe now crossover SUV’s?

Basically it boils down to everything has gotten big, fat, and overpriced have you even seen a Polo?

Fuck the entire German car industry they’ve betrayed what made people like them to chase trends and extra profits

And finally fuck me because I own two VW’s and Two BMW’s

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I own a Honda Fit. It's small, is reasonably petrol efficient, has actual dials and physical knobs for an interface, and needs just basic maintenance to run reliably.

Of course they've been discontinued in Canada.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Blame idiot Canadians who buy pickups instead, not Honda.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sure wish we were a province of the United States. Then nobody would be buying pickup trucks as passenger vehicles! I mean, who in America has a pickup truck in their driveway?

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They’ve been discontinued is the important part, anything decent gets discontinued.

It seems Toyota is about the only car company building anything interesting. Akio Toyoda is this generations Bob Lutz or Ferdinand Piëch

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I'd buy another one. The Fit is a fantastic economy car. I want an EV, but older cars don't track. That's more important to me than the convenience of an EV.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Toyota is betting on hydrogen instead of electric for some stupid fucking reason.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Electric works fine in industrialized suburban blahsville but it doesn’t work well outside of it. Toyota dominates in the non industrial nations so it needs to remain flexible, I wish more auto companies would do blue sky type research

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Nice, I like your points and your style

[–] oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And here I am, still thinking anything but sedans are ugly af. SUVs are the most hideous vehicle I've ever seen. Ugly and absolutely the worst possible kind of shape.

Well 2nd worst. Trucks are worse since they tend to be taller. Plus I've never met a decent person who owns one of those tall ones. They're all just chick size competitions, smallest dick finally wins in their eyes. If you absolutely have to have a truck, get one of those Japanese types that are almost as small as a real car that actually has a bed on it.

Whoever started the trend of trucks getting bigger, taller, and fatter all while the bed is smaller than my tiny cars backseat should actually be executed. How many people are they responsible for killing?

The reason the trucks keep getting bigger is to meet emissions regulations. Sounds nuts, right? But instead of making them more efficient, they could use a loophole of making them bigger instead, because the law applies in a size vs efficiency ratio, not efficiency by itself.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Even sedans have gotten supersized just look a new Accord or Camry vs the older versions. The 3 series is bigger than a e39 5 series the A6 is bigger than the older A8’s.

I own a stick shift Golf Alltrack and I really don’t know what I’d replace it with if it was wrecked, there’s nothing out there at a price I’d be willing to pay that I like.

[–] oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My last car was a Camry, and it was huge compared to what I remember them as (my mom has an 80s one when I was a kid). I've downsized to a Corolla (after I destroyed the Camry whoopsie) now tho.

And I have no idea what those alphabet/number soup cars even are. If they can't get a real name thae they can go extinct. I'm not learning what an e45 is, or a ZQ73 is.

But yeah they have gotten more unwieldy, and that shit needs to stop.

But what I meant to say got lost in my other point, which was my opinion that even given the most safe shape and sizes possible, I think everything but sedans are ugly, just aesthetically speaking. I understand the practical reasons, but they're all ugly.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

SUVs are not practical. Hatchbacks or wagon sedans are practical.

SUVs are just big to give the impression of value and to sell to an increasingly obese demographic.