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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And calling people objects is why the right is crazy.

If a person drowns and has no heartbeat, is it okay for you to have a quickie with them before the paramedics arrive to save him? Clinically they're dead, so... by your logic, they're an object, and never had the ability to consent in the first place, so quickly fucking them up the arse should be a-okay, right?

Or is there like a timer you have for when a person goes from a person to an object, which then retroactively never had personhood anyway? Is it just time, or is it temperature, or as soon as the smell sets in? Some people have been clinically dead for half an hour in cold water before being resuscitated, the cold helping protect from brain damage. And some people smell like dead bodies while alive.

I'm just curious as to your personal criteria.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The object never has agency. The person does. This edge case is a fine one, but only suggests that the person is dormant, not gone, and can be returned to life. If a body is in a morgue for a week, that ain't going to be a possibility.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Yeah. People aren't objects. Even if human remains were, you'd have a hard time arguing when a person stops existing without "well once they've rotted for a week, they're definitely not alive." yeah no shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox