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[–] steel_for_humans@piefed.social 17 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

I thought Germany was a progressive country. Why only men?

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I thought Germany was a progressive country.

Oh, sweet summer child...

Outright nazis, a supposed center-right (and highly corrupt) party copying every nazi talking point and a supposed center-left (and not caring about anything but gifts for pensioneers) party agreeing to every insanity as long as they get a position in government, too, combine to an easy 2/3 majority in polls (did I mention age bracket 55+ having a majority in elections?^^), which translates into an even bigger majority in seats.

We have stopped doing actual politics at all as it's completely drowned out by culture war 24/7.

They are so "progressive" that they advocate for burning more fossil fuels right now as renewables are obviosuly not working, Germany is -unlike the Nordics- much too cold for heat pumps, and also much too big for electric mobility with its limited range as everyone is obviously driving a few thousand kilometers daily...

No, that's barely more than a slight exaggeration of their regular talking points.

[–] nope@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Sweden reactivated our conscription duty in 2017 and then, since the law should be gender neutral, women were then also required to muster and serve if they where deemed needed by the armed forces.

For those looking in horror at Sweden for forcing young men and women into the military: In reality if you really don't want to serve, then you will probably preform a lot worse than a person highly motivated to serve their country. Thus you will not be called upon by the armed forces to do conscription.

However with the troubling times we are in the Swedish armed forces require a lot more people to uphold the deterrence and that results in the bar for who gets called upon gets lowered.

[–] mech@feddit.org 8 points 8 hours ago

The progressive parties in Germany don't want conscription for all genders.
They want conscription for no one.
Also, Germany's government is lead by this guy right now.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 26 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Are we? In any case, it's a law from the 60s. They "only" modified a paragraph to make it apply in peace time.

But yeah, if we must have conscription laws again, they should definitely apply to all genders.

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

I believe the specific law is from 1977, but I agree with your point in general, that service shouldn't discriminate based on gender.

From my knowledge this rule was supposedly active for decades before Germany discontinued conscription and nobody really followed it then. Why there is a need to reactivate a law that will not be followed by the vast majority and that has no enforcement mechanisms associated with it really beats me. It's probably a mix of incompetence and "we've always been doing things like this".

[–] pulsey@feddit.org 10 points 10 hours ago

It's also a problem with our Grundgesetz/ constitution. It has the old law in it, which only requires men to serve. To change this, it would require a two-third majority in the parlament, i.e. the government would need to help of the opposition. Also the current ruling government party is conservative and isnt really interested in changing it anyways.

[–] Jay101@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It is very conservative and ruled by a racist govt. Even the green party in Germany is more like Green-washing party.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Idk why you're getting downvoted, you speak the truth

[–] Jay101@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Alot of politics in Germany revolves around cult like following instead of critical thinking, hence calling greens as green washing would get one down voted. The fact is Green politicians pushed to shut down nuclear energy. They also cheered for genocide, in fact they are complicit in the genocide. And instead of throwing away Annalena Baerbock, she got promoted to UNGA for supporting a genocide. Same reason why half of the holocaust victims are ignored and the remembrance is only limited specific identities. Roma and Sinti fΓΌr example had to struggle until recently to get their genocide recognised and the first holocaust in Namibia was not recognised until few years ago. Meanwhile 80 billion Euros were sent to the apartheid state in Middle East to oppress people.