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Lemmy trolls...
I've been into web-dev since 2007, I've been working with corporations who are processing high load traffic, including payment systems. I tell you that 80% of these work with PHP and have no major issues. Valve's Steam is PHP even, and still does work, right?
Have you even considered Laravel, and Symfony? Optimizations as OpCode and Jit?
It all works and is stable. Not only that, but it's easy to deploy and release since you don't have to compile it every single time.
Depending on the team, the code is greatly organized, syntax is featureful and allows for both static and runtime/dynamic safety.
You, @Skullgrid@lemmy.world? You might haven't yet worked in actual enterprise. You should get fundamental knowledge on the subject you raise your voice at.
I am sorry, but please do invest some accountable time and actually read something about the subject, prior claiming people are idiots and don't do their own research of almost 40 years of life.
PHP is a perfectly capable and freaking awesome language for almost any web-dev and is lovely to work with.
Oh! You might as well ask your "vibes" about the trends/statistics around the globe at enterprise, make some comparisons, or well some valuable research etc. if you are not capable to achieve the same manually, considering your infant attitude to complex systems.
You do you, indeed.
P.S. We may wait now for copy-pasted or LLM-generated pros/cons, too, for a sudden "proof" no one asked for.
I'm literally working on APIs for my company on python right now, while I develop something else in django for my personal project(s). I've worked for fortune 500 companies, and actually used minimal PHP on my own website as a hack for menu reuse.
It's a joke , you guys are taking it too seriously. The main idea is that compared to things like python, php is outdated. Yes, legacy systems exist, and are successful. But it was a punching bag for webdev hate for a long time, in a way that other things like perl, ruby , or python have not been.
Maybe regurgitating those jokes are not that funny. Alright. Doesn't mean that you need to try to bring my skills down and attack my professionalism.
Ironically, Python is older than PHP, albeit not by more than a few years (1991 vs 1995).
Both are antiquated at this point, but both have their uses, so do what works, no shame here.
I tend to prefer statically typed languages personally and TDD is a big win for larger code bases when possible. My current place of employment has been on the Golang and Rust bandwagon for a while, but theres still plenty of dotNet, PHP and Python hanging around because they were just the best tool for the job at the time.
I'm not using antiquated as in "old" I'm using it as in "disused, no longer functioning the same way other tools of the same ilk do".
The new "breakthroughs" in AI and data analysis are being done in python, and it's being used to serve the modern standard of web APIs. I haven't heard much about PHP based LLMs or REST APIs.
But like, I'm fine that people like PHP and want to keep using it. Again, I was just regurgitating an old meme.
Not sure about LLM's as thats not what my team does, but for API's we found better performance with PHP of the two, that was ~10yrs ago though...
Rust and Golang blow them both out of the water for REST API's. (Like by 100x speed/request rates) Definitely recommend going that way for high traffic endpoints. The last one I wrote, Rust won that battle, but ymmv.
good to know. that does make sense, since rust and golang aren't scripting languages.