Europe
News and information from Europe 🇪🇺
(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)
Rules (2024-08-30)
- This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
- No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
- Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
- No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, islamophobia, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism. We follow German law; don't question the statehood of Israel.
- Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
- If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
- Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in other communities.
- Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
- No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
- Always provide context with posts: Don't post uncontextualized images or videos, and don't start discussions without giving some context first.
(This list may get expanded as necessary.)
Posts that link to the following sources will be removed
- on any topic: Al Mayadeen, brusselssignal:eu, citjourno:com, europesays:com, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Fox, GB News, geo-trends:eu, news-pravda:com, OAN, RT, sociable:co, any AI slop sites (when in doubt please look for a credible imprint/about page), change:org (for privacy reasons), archive:is,ph,today (their JS DDoS websites)
- on Middle-East topics: Al Jazeera
- on Hungary: Euronews
Unless they're the only sources, please also avoid The Sun, Daily Mail, any "thinktank" type organization, and non-Lemmy social media (incl. Substack). Don't link to Twitter directly, instead use xcancel.com. For Reddit, use old:reddit:com
(Lists may get expanded as necessary.)
Ban lengths, etc.
We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.
If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 7 or 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.
If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the admin that applied the rule (check modlog first to find who was it.)
view the rest of the comments
I'd need to store 3-4 months of energy for the winter lol, 10 MWh should more than suffice for personal use.
Mean sunlight per day is about 30 minutes in the winter months since there's about 6 hours of daytime and most days are overcast.
10 MWh is a lot for just 3-4 months. Do you have a Jacuzzi and heated pool? 😅
For the months you can't produce enough electricity, you buy the electricity during the cheap hours and then use it during peak hours, when it is most expensive.
Heat pump and a cold climate. Now I wish I had a jacuzzi! Curse you! A heated pool or jacuzzi or something outdoors would be peak luxury for me tbh.
There are no cheap hours in the winter, there are kinda expensive hours and super expensive hours. Worst I've seen is 5 euros per kilowatt hour, which is the price cap. Luckily that only happens a couple of times a winter, if that.
I did just find out that some providers allow you to keep a fixed buy price even when you also sell back to the grid (which can't be fixed price). So that could change the math quite a bit.
There's also the option of simply donating the excess to the grid (not having a sell contract) lol
Where do you live? I also have a heat pump for hot water and floor heating. Compared to winter, it barely runs in the summer months, but sounds like you live in a colder place than Danmark?
There’s still money to be made (saved), by buying during the cheapest hours and using it during the expensive hours.
I can save about 1-2 EUR every day by buying during cheap hours and using it during expensive hours. Days I can just use the sun, I of course save even more, because I barely have to buy any electricity, except for a few hours at night.
Ha, I know you're an authentic Dane by how you spelled Denmark! I live in Estonia, slightly colder, but not the coldest. I haven't yet gotten around to installing an air-to-water or ground source pump yet, so mine only heats the home, not the water (meaning I spend a whole lot of electricity on my regular boiler year round). It's been running 24/7 since October currently, more or less. I could just go heat my furnace right now and turn off the pump, but that's extra work + firewood costs money too. Long term goal is to replace the furnace completely, with a ground-source heat pump with vertical collectors since my garden isn't big enough for horizontal.
Definitely same here, but I have a fixed price package and in the winter, the lows barely ever get to the level I pay year-round. This makes more sense for me since I use much less electricity (barely any) in the summer compared to the winter.
However, as I said previously, I discovered that it's now possible to keep the fixed price for my electricity purchasing. If I got a couple of panels, they'd more than cover my electricity use in the summer and I wouldn't have to worry about the price - and in the winter, I'd still be paying less than everyone on a variable rate plan like I do now. If I could also install some small turbines on the roof, that could actually halve my power bills in the winter too.
Only trouble is, I bought cheap roofing materials knowing I won't have any use for solar panels anytime soon, and it won't support the weight lol. Oh well. I saved like a thousand or two thousand euros compared to more expensive roofing materials at least.
Saving 1-2 EUR per day with a 6000+ EUR battery pack sounds…not worth it.
A 5 kWh battery is about 1300 EUR, with a 10 year warranty.
1-2 EUR is minimum saved pr. day. Let’s just say I only save 1 EUR pr. day. That’s 365 EUR/year. RoI is max 3.5 years.
Oh I didn’t realize such small capacity batteries were worth the installation effort in a home. Does that 1300 include the inverter and battery management system? What about the installation of the interconnect?
(I rent so I don’t know much about this stuff, thank you for your time!)